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Nuvi and USB (charging low battery)

 

I was just informed that if the battery dies in your Nuvi, the power cord which comes with the 660 serves no purpose. Only connecting via USB will the unit charge itself and then be able to boot itself. On anyone's next trip, be sure to bring the USB connection also.. This is straight from Garmin's Tech Support

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NickJr Nuvi 3597LMT
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Not just the 660

That's a good idea for all of the models of the Nuvi line.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone5 + Navigon*

Nüvi 350 as well?

I have the 350 and the power cord has a male mini usb connector on the end, is that the same with the 660?

Good tip, thanks!

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Garmin Nüvi 265WT,Software Ver. 7.00, City Navigator North America NT 2010.30

Yes.

I believe that is the case.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone5 + Navigon*

Power Cord

I use my power cord to charge my 660 frequently. Are you saying if my battery dies completely, the power cord will not charge it.This doesn't seem to make sense to me.

R/Tim

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R/Tim NUVI 660, ETREX Vista, Rhino 120, zumo 660, nuvi 3790

That information I received

That information I received is straight from Garmin, I guess you could try it, but if you don't succeed, then I would use the usb port on your PC

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NickJr Nuvi 3597LMT

Be Thankful

At least Garmin products charge through their USB cable. I just tried a Magellan Roadmate 6000T. The USB cable provides no power, in fact you are strongly encouraged to use an AC adapter (not supplied) when connecting to a computer, especially when upgrading firmware or downloading files, or else it may die part way through a flash upgrade and render your GPS useless.

12V charging

I just purchased my Nuvi 350 a couple of weeks ago and have no problem charging the unit through the 12 volt cord or the USB and AC charger.

Good info

Thanks for the info, my Nuvi 660 did some freaky things when I first got it and the battery was really low. But I have not had a problem charging it. But that is good info to know just incase.

Thanks for the heads up!

Thanks for the heads up!

Nuvi 680

I have the new 680. Anyword? I usually connect the car charger which is needed for the MSN Weather and Traffic live update.

Battery in Nuvi

Just wonder how long the battery dies in Nuvi. If the battery dies in Nuvi, can I replace it by myself?

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nuvi660

Nuvi independent

Li-Ion batteries (in general) tend to have about a 2-3 year "practical use" life time.

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Charley - Nuvi 350 - Bel STI Driver - Cobra 29 w/ wilson 1000 - AIM: asianfire -

FREQUENT CHARGING

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF PLUGGING IN THE NUVI 370 EVERYTIME I GET INTO THE CAR WILL CREATE A MEMORY IN THE BATTERY.

It should not cause a problem

J-RIPPER29 wrote:

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF PLUGGING IN THE NUVI 370 EVERYTIME I GET INTO THE CAR WILL CREATE A MEMORY IN THE BATTERY.

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Garmin StreetPilot c530, Mapsource

lithium-ion batteries are "memory free".

J-RIPPER29 wrote:

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF PLUGGING IN THE NUVI 370 EVERYTIME I GET INTO THE CAR WILL CREATE A MEMORY IN THE BATTERY.

Your nuvi should have a lithium-ion battery. Unlike NiCad batteries, lithium-ion batteries are "memory free".

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---------------"Internet: Don't believe half of what you read, and verify the other half."---------

nuvi 200 charging

I just ran my nuvi 200 until it turned itself off. I then plugged in the Garmin car charger and it fired right up.

Please note that if you try to use a generic USB cable with a cigarette lighter adapter you will not be able to use your nuvi. It will think it is connected to a computer, so all you can do with that type of cable is charge the nuvi.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin eTrex, nüvi 1390/GTM-26, nüvi 2595/GTM-60 "A person's a person, no matter how small", Dr. Seuss.

Lithium-Ion Batteries

Lithium-Ion batteries have a lifetime of 300-500 charges so running it down and charging shortens the life. If it is charged from 1/2 capacity that counts as 1/2 charge cycle. As someone mentioned their life is also limited by time to 2-3 years and they have to be sent back to Garmin for a replacement which I am sure will cost a small fortune. Lithium-ion batteries have a lot of advantages but lifetime is not one of them.
Mike

first time charge

I just received my garmin nuvi 360 in the mail and was wondering if I need to charge it for a specified period before initial use.

Also, is it best to use the GPS w/o it plugged into the 12V outlet while driving and wait til the battery runs low before you plug it in? I'm not sure what most people do in their cars. I'm not really familiar with the memory life of these batteries. Most lithium-ion batteries should be completely used before charged.

Suggestions?

Mythbusters

peter0ck wrote:

I just received my garmin nuvi 360 in the mail and was wondering if I need to charge it for a specified period before initial use.

Also, is it best to use the GPS w/o it plugged into the 12V outlet while driving and wait til the battery runs low before you plug it in? I'm not sure what most people do in their cars. I'm not really familiar with the memory life of these batteries. Most lithium-ion batteries should be completely used before charged.

Suggestions?

You can use it right away while it is charging in car. The old technology batteries needed to have a complete charge... it is simply a myth concerning Lithium Ion left over from the old days. Sames myth thing about completely using them up before charging again. The only reason to discharge your batteries is because the battery meter isn't accurate. Lithium Ion prefer partial rather than a full discharge.

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm There is some great info on this website that can make your head hurt but I clipped the pertinent stuff here.

Quote:

A lithium-ion battery provides 300-500 discharge/charge cycles. The battery prefers a partial rather than a full discharge. Frequent full discharges should be avoided when possible.

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nüvi 680, nüvi 770, Garmin Mobile XT, etc...

a little exercise

It seems to get better overall battery life, the most effective way is to "exercise" the battery one cycle per month:

The iPod/iPhone Battery unplugged . . .

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“There is always a solution; the only challenge is to find the best one”

I wonder if the Garmin tech got it backwards...

nickjr wrote:

I was just informed that if the battery dies in your Nuvi, the power cord which comes with the 660 serves no purpose. Only connecting via USB will the unit charge itself and then be able to boot itself. On anyone's next trip, be sure to bring the USB connection also.. This is straight from Garmin's Tech Support

I wonder if the Garmin guy told you backwards.... it makes more sense for it to be the other way around. Whereas if you were to have a fully discharged battery the USB wouldn't work and the AC power cord (or car charger) would. That has been my experience on older Pocket PC's. It has something to do with the current available on the USB is maxed out at 500ma whereas the AC charger can boost out to 1amp.

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nüvi 680, nüvi 770, Garmin Mobile XT, etc...

Makes more sense

dcoffing wrote:
nickjr wrote:

I was just informed that if the battery dies in your Nuvi, the power cord which comes with the 660 serves no purpose. Only connecting via USB will the unit charge itself and then be able to boot itself. On anyone's next trip, be sure to bring the USB connection also.. This is straight from Garmin's Tech Support

I wonder if the Garmin guy told you backwards.... it makes more sense for it to be the other way around. Whereas if you were to have a fully discharged battery the USB wouldn't work and the AC power cord (or car charger) would. That has been my experience on older Pocket PC's. It has something to do with the current available on the USB is maxed out at 500ma whereas the AC charger can boost out to 1amp.

This makes more sense to me, as my Nüvi didn't come with anything BUT the automobile power cord. If the USB was actually required after a full discharge, then it seems like it would have been included in the box (an omission which seems a bit cheap to me for a product that needs to be connected to a PC for such simple things as software/firmware updates).

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Rick - Nüvi 260 - eTrex Summit HC

Unfortunately this is true

I discovered this to be true this weekend while visiting San Francisco. My wife accidentally left the Nuvi on and the battery discharged. We were unable to recharge the battery via the 12V car charger which meant the Nuvi was useless to us for the remeainder of the trip. We didn't bring a computer to charge it on our excursion. It looks like we will have to bring the A.C. adapter as a backup. This "feature" is very inconvenient on the road.

What Nuvi do you have?

2 months ago I was playing with the Nuvi 360 at home to map out the road then forget to turn it off. When we start to go on the trip the next day the battery was gone. I put it in the cradle in the car that hook up with the 12v car charger which came with the Nuvi so I can navigate to the trip location. After 6 hours drive when I stop at the rest Area, I took it out the cradle and look at the battery and it full of charge. So to me the 12v car charger will charge your Nuvi. I don't know what make mine difference?

Interesting

I have the Nuvi 760 and could not get it to work with the MSN 12V charger / traffic receiver after my battery discharged this weekend. I was able to charge it with the A.C. adapter when I got home.
I use the supplied cradle in conjunction with the beanbag mount.

Good Info

Thanks for taking the time to share! I was confused by the whole battery memory thing.

Gage

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Gage with a nuvi 350 and 200

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dtran1 wrote:

2 months ago I was playing with the Nuvi 360 at home to map out the road then forget to turn it off. When we start to go on the trip the next day the battery was gone. I put it in the cradle in the car that hook up with the 12v car charger which came with the Nuvi so I can navigate to the trip location. After 6 hours drive when I stop at the rest Area, I took it out the cradle and look at the battery and it full of charge. So to me the 12v car charger will charge your Nuvi. I don't know what make mine difference?

Perhaps yours didn't drain completely. I, like you, never had the issue about charging on a usb port and not the dc charger. But I have heard of such.

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Charley - Nuvi 350 - Bel STI Driver - Cobra 29 w/ wilson 1000 - AIM: asianfire -

LOW BATTERY NUVI 760

My Nuvi 760 got drained down to nothing and would not recharge for any length of time using the included 12v charger. After doing a google search and finding this forum I plugged it into my computer and presto it recharged. I must say this is about as goofy as things get with such a highly regarded GPS. I can only say thanks for this forum or I would have tried to return the unit.

Charging question Garmin 760

Is there any way to turn the screen off when the unit is charging on the computer, or with a power cord or use the 12V?

When using the 12V or AC the map is on.

When charging with the computer I get

Garmin and picture of the computer.

Does this not burn the screen?

Thanks

If you put it into test mode...

I just read this trick, while unit is on touch the battery icon for about five seconds. When the unit goes into test mode, attach the charger, then exit text mode. You can now turn off the unit and it will continue to charge or you can use the unit, whatever. You can turn the unit off and on as you like until you unplug the usb cord....

edit:

and no it's not like your tv it won't burn the screen but the unit may charge faster if it is off... Not positive about that...

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It is terrible to speak well and be wrong. -Sophocles snɥɔnıɥdoɐ aka ʎɹɐƃ

Didn't realize

Didn't realize that the 12V cigarette outlet would not power up a fully discharged nuvi. I'm glad that I've always brought along my AC charger on my travels.

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Peter

Nuvi 650

I just took a trip to Delaware 4 hrs and forgot my power cord due to using my girlfriends vehicle. Knowing this, When I would get to a section of highway that was 50 miles I would shut the unit off and check the odometer the turn the unit back on conserving battery life that way. Well, it died shutting off its self being it was a long trip but when I knew I was close I could turn the unit back on long enough to tell me when my next turn was then it would shut down again. I returned with out using it. When I got back in my truck I plugged it into the dash mount and it turned on and I took the 1 1/2 hr ride back home from her place and to find out it charged 1/2 full with it turned on and just using it in map mode not that that matters . Just the car charger was used.

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Critters Taste Good! Nuvi 650 & 765T

It seems the usb port is faster...

There has been much discussion about the unit not charging at all with the unit in the charger cradle, I don't know if it would fair any better if you used an auto phone charger, i.e. Blackberry or Razr, both of which have usb connectors. There maybe others... I know my Blackberry/razr home charger works on my 760....

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It is terrible to speak well and be wrong. -Sophocles snɥɔnıɥdoɐ aka ʎɹɐƃ

Charge in Test Mode

WOW aophiuchus. Thank you very much for the tip.

AC Charger w/ USB Mini connector

aophiuchus wrote:

There has been much discussion about the unit not charging at all with the unit in the charger cradle, I don't know if it would fair any better if you used an auto phone charger, i.e. Blackberry or Razr, both of which have usb connectors. There maybe others... I know my Blackberry/razr home charger works on my 760....

Any mini usb AC charger with a minimum output of 500ma of supply current (under load) will charge your unit. If you get the map page, simply turn the unit off and it will display the charging screen.
Look for Output: 5VDC 500mA on the charger label.

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JRoz -- nuvi 3490LMT, 3760LMT, 260W; Edge 605; Approach G5; Oregon 450

Thanks for the Info -

I knew about charging the battery, but didn't know about the complete discharge problem. Thanks for the information. I have modified my "bag of goodies" to contain the USB Cable.

Thank you!

I just purchased a 760 and had no idea about this battery discharge issue. Very helpful information - thanks for sharing.

Charging Nuvi 650 with bluetooth headset ac adapter

jrozsnaki wrote:
aophiuchus wrote:

There has been much discussion about the unit not charging at all with the unit in the charger cradle, I don't know if it would fair any better if you used an auto phone charger, i.e. Blackberry or Razr, both of which have usb connectors. There maybe others... I know my Blackberry/razr home charger works on my 760....

Any mini usb AC charger with a minimum output of 500ma of supply current (under load) will charge your unit. If you get the map page, simply turn the unit off and it will display the charging screen.
Look for Output: 5VDC 500mA on the charger label.

I have a motorola bluetooth headset. Does anyone know if I can charge the Nuvi650 with this charger?

Thanks

AC Charger

lenster111 wrote:
jrozsnaki wrote:
aophiuchus wrote:

There has been much discussion about the unit not charging at all with the unit in the charger cradle, I don't know if it would fair any better if you used an auto phone charger, i.e. Blackberry or Razr, both of which have usb connectors. There maybe others... I know my Blackberry/razr home charger works on my 760....

Any mini usb AC charger with a minimum output of 500ma of supply current (under load) will charge your unit. If you get the map page, simply turn the unit off and it will display the charging screen.
Look for Output: 5VDC 500mA on the charger label.

I have a motorola bluetooth headset. Does anyone know if I can charge the Nuvi650 with this charger?

Thanks

I tried and the one I had would not work properly. It would charge but very, very slowly. Bought a garmin charger for $20 and it works great....plus you can use the unit while it is charging...get a garmin charger and you won't have to worry about anything.

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Bobby....Garmin 2450LM

my 205w came with a charger

my 205w came with a charger for in the car

AC Charger

ihots4 wrote:

my 205w came with a charger for in the car

They all come with a car charger. This discussion relates to a wall AC charger..

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Bobby....Garmin 2450LM

Batteries replaced

Mike107 wrote:

Lithium-Ion batteries have a lifetime of 300-500 charges so running it down and charging shortens the life. If it is charged from 1/2 capacity that counts as 1/2 charge cycle. As someone mentioned their life is also limited by time to 2-3 years and they have to be sent back to Garmin for a replacement which I am sure will cost a small fortune. Lithium-ion batteries have a lot of advantages but lifetime is not one of them.
Mike

I read that the nuvi 750 battery could not be replaced. I hope I read it wrong. If it can be replaced, please let me know. Thank you and have a great day.

ohwogo nuvi 750

Yes, but not user replaceable

They can all be replaced. What I think you mean to ask, is the battery user replaceable? Generally none of the Garmin nüvis have user replaceable batteries, but most can be replaced if you crack open the unit.

PT

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Garmin nüvi 200 (my first GPS) & 780. And a Mac user.

Battery Issue

DrewDT wrote:

I discovered this to be true this weekend while visiting San Francisco. My wife accidentally left the Nuvi on and the battery discharged. We were unable to recharge the battery via the 12V car charger which meant the Nuvi was useless to us for the remeainder of the trip. We didn't bring a computer to charge it on our excursion. It looks like we will have to bring the A.C. adapter as a backup. This "feature" is very inconvenient on the road.

Do I understand that if your Nuvi is completly discharged that it won't even respond with it connected to the cigarette lighter. Also here is a question that I posted on another part of Poi-Factory that was not answered, possibly someone has the answer.

Question, if the battery goes bad, ex:can no longer except a charge, I take it that you can still use the GPS if plugged into a cigarette lighter, or AC adapter and you can still connect to a computer to install software, or am I wrong. I think if this happens I will still use my unit that way. One function you would lose is to find your vehicle in a parking lot or if you are walking in an unfamiliar city etc. I would miss that but other than the portability would it still work.

Any help is appreciated.

Len

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TomTom Via 1435TM & Garmin Nuvi 750

A/C Charging

I am new to the GPS world and just got a Nuvi 760. I could not find answer for my question searching through the forum, but apologize in advance if I simply missed somewhere. I have a couple of questions.

1. I read in one post that if are going to use a generic USB to A/C adapter to charge your nuvi it might actually simply put it in data mode (as if it was connected to a PC as a data drive) rather than actually being charged. Any idea how to figure out if it is actually charging or sitting in data mode (since it simply show a Garmin logo with PC indicating that USB cable is connected)?

2. Any idea how to figure out exactly when the unit is done charging? I love the unit, but this appears to be a real shortcoming for Garmin. Cell phones and other devices have some sort of indicators (for example, my cell will have green light while charging and if the light goes off it means it's fully charged)

3. Does anyone know if there is a difference between using a OEM Garmin A/C Charger adapter and a generic USB to A/C adapter (sells at Walmart for around $10 which allows you to simply plug the USB cable into it and plug into AC) or any other generic USB/AC adapter sold on eBay?

Thanks in advance to all that respond.

.

molodoi wrote:

1. I read in one post that if are going to use a generic USB to A/C adapter to charge your nuvi it might actually simply put it in data mode (as if it was connected to a PC as a data drive) rather than actually being charged. Any idea how to figure out if it is actually charging or sitting in data mode (since it simply show a Garmin logo with PC indicating that USB cable is connected)?

Even in data mode the unit is charging. So nothing to worry about.

molodoi wrote:

2. Any idea how to figure out exactly when the unit is done charging?

The only way to confirm that the unit is fully charged is to unplug the unit and go into the diagnostic menu. The easier thing to do is just let the unit charge overnight.

molodoi wrote:

3. Does anyone know if there is a difference between using a OEM Garmin A/C Charger adapter and a generic USB to A/C adapter (sells at Walmart for around $10 which allows you to simply plug the USB cable into it and plug into AC) or any other generic USB/AC adapter sold on eBay?

Generally the only difference between OEM chargers and aftermarket chargers are the price!! As long as the outputs are approximately the same you should be fine.

Nuvi and USB (charging low battery)

GadgetGuy2008 wrote:

Generally the only difference between OEM chargers and aftermarket chargers are the price!! As long as the outputs are approximately the same you should be fine.

Any idea what the output is on the OEM adapters (v, mA)?

Thanks for

the info wink

I've been planning to buy a

I've been planning to buy a Nuvi soon, this will be good info to have. Thanks!

Always 5v, mA varies

molodoi wrote:
GadgetGuy2008 wrote:

Generally the only difference between OEM chargers and aftermarket chargers are the price!! As long as the outputs are approximately the same you should be fine.

Any idea what the output is on the OEM adapters (v, mA)?

USB is ALWAYS 5v. The only thing that will differ is the mA capacity. Garmin's is 1000 mA. If you buy a 500 mA cheapie, it works fine, just takes longer to charge. Your computer's USB port charging capacity is usually 500 mA. Most 3rd-party chargers will typically be in the 500-700 mA range. They will all work fine. I use the same charger for my Nuvi, Blackberry and iPod.

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