When you find a rendition of a tune you like

I listen more than once fairly often when I hear something I like. Back in the days of cassette tape I took the 9 minute guitar solo out of the middle of a tune I liked and looped it into a 45 minute 'driving' tape. Ah, the good ole days of music.

Us old farts have music you can hum, sing or whatever. What are they going do in future with this RAP crap ???

LOL!

Don’t like it, can’t understand it. Sounds like a bunch of gibberish to me. Give me a good old tune from the late ’50’s or early ’60’s. Those tunes I can listen to back to back to back.

https://youtu.be/u9Dg-g7t2l4?si=TKzyJfZ4_FiNiynA

Prophetic

Peace and blessings

Funny you should mention the '50's or '60's. To this day, my favorite decade of music is 1955-1965. Still listen to it once in a while.

Phil

Agreed. I can listen to a favorite song many times in a row. I also play guitar, and enjoy hearing renditions by others of songs I play.

When my parents died in 1984, I started listening to the music of their generation as a way to stay connected to them. Big Band soon became my music and with the help of an old jazz bass player I also learned about Count Basie, Lester Young, Bill Evans, and many others. To this day, it is still my music.

Classic good stuff.

I went back to my folks generation too sometimes. As for today, with the internet, I like finding instrumental versions of songs I know quite well as I hear things I wouldn't with a vocal track on top. It could be a muted vocal track or phased out version but it's kinda cool!

In the car I have a zip drive with a wide range of mostly 60-70s music and some of the newer country. I have a particular Dixie Chicks song, that I tend to repeat a few times, when the Shuffle brings it up. The song is "Goodbye Earl", and the refrain is "Earl's Gotta Die". I sing this with the girls at the top of my lungs. LOL

p.s. The folks here at POI Factory put me onto a free program called MP3 Gain, that you can use to set the volume level of all of your recorded music, to a set value, so that you don't have to constantly adjust the volume while you're driving.

^^Wouldn't a flash drive give you much more capacity (in significantly smaller form factor) than a zip drive?

I thought a zip drive & flash drive were the same thing. My goof.

I use a 32 Gb flash drive. However, the issue about varying recording levels is still the same.

I like old western's and the 50's thru the 80's but can't stand most of the stuff now. I am stuck on a couple of songs now, one by Jim Ed Brown (Three Bells) and one buy Roger Miller (King of the Road).

That is a great song.

I've been a bit of a funk lately for a lot of reasons. Normally I'll climb into Youtube and get lost in some music, generally speaking it helps to life me up and out. Well, I'm still working on that but it made me think of this thread. I love a hard driving blues type guitar and although Pink Floyd wasn't a blues band I think David Gilmour plays among the best.

I just listened to each one of these at least three times as loud as my little speakers could handle. They are renditions of Pink Floyd's tunes with Gilmour at guitar, but not the original band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrProK5R7ms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiXNIjGX1hY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHKG7EMxWW8

This is my understanding of a zip drive.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Iomega_Z...

If I recall, the actual zip disks were a bit larger than a 3.5" floppy disk, and much thicker.

Problem with larger flash drives is some infotainment systems only recognize X many files or X many folder levels deep. Also have to be formatted fat32 or exfat. As a result, while the drive may still have capacity, the system won't recognize the excess files.

Here's the details from my '22 stinger owner's manual.

Specifcation details Max. number of directory layers: 20 layers
Max. folder/file name length: 255 Bytes
Valid characters that can be used in a folder/file name: 2,350
Alphanumeric characters/4,888 Chinese characters
Max. number of folders: 2,000 (including the root)
Max. number of files: 8,000

Talk about listening to the same song a lot reminds me of an article in National Geographic that I read probably ten years ago about some guy who hiked around the PERIMITER of Alaska. Took him months. When asked what was the worst part of the trek he said that he couldn't get the ABBA song Dancing Queen out of his head. It just kept replaying itself in his secluded brain over and over again. Talk about earning your chops...

Phil

But I play El Paso, so always liked that, and Big Iron (Merle Haggard).

Throw in Mama Tried, which may not be a western or cowboy tune, but I always liked prison tunes too. Sing Me Away is another.

I over all like all old westerns, as they are the only ones I can fully understand.

Singing "Monkey and the Engineer" as I'm working from home today. So railroad and workingman type tunes I also like...

I have a granddaughter that is 20. Her group loves 50s and 60s songs and play them all the time. Hopefully the kids will go back to some of the old tunes if enough can hear them.

My husband used to sing "Get a Job" all the time around the house. It used to drive me crazy!

editing my mixed cassette tapes. I has fun with tapes.

One Step at a Time...among others

https://youtu.be/33q9SjTx8rA?si=Oqr7zTpLHft8wDBo

As it rings true today....

"Keep your day job, until your night job pays."

It even says daddy may drive a V8 Vette (here it is 2023 and how many of us could afford a Corvette?)...

2023 Z06's were selling for $75,000 over list. Chevy had to step in and make buyers sign a waiver that if they sell it within the first year, warranty would be void (unenforceable). Life sure is ironic.

I'm a classical music lover, and own about 600 CDs. My 2002 Audi had a 6-CD player in the dash, and every few weeks I'd select six from the shelves and use them as my driving music.

I'm seriously annoyed that I've found no method to play my CDs in my new Tesla (no, I don't consider spending hundreds of hours of my time ripping my CDs to a flash drive a suitable solution).

But to the original topic, while I liked to listen to them in aggregate a lot, if I played one specific one more than a few dozen times--even stretching over many years, it wore a groove in my brain and I'd prefer to listen to other things.

I would imagine a CD would sound better, than the supported means of playing them or any music for that matter, in the new car.

My 2006 also has a 6 cd changer and I don't use it much, but do find the times to switch and even know what's in each position is cumbersome. Meaning it would be faster to deal with a single CD player rather than a 6 CD changer/player.

For whatever reason, I canceled XM long long ago but it still works, so I use it. I'm talking years. So it would be fascinating to call in to see what they show. It has to be on a lifetime plan. But I bet I would not be able to move the service to another radio ID (class action resulted in yes, lifetime is lifetime across devices).

Hey at any rate, because of it, I discovered the Big Steve Hour and learned so much from his stories.

Amazon offers CD players like this. Would that work?

Xglysmyc External USB Car Universal CD Player,Vehicle CD Player for Car via USB Radio Connection Portable CD Player for Car Android Navigation with USB Port-Plug and Play

Mary

The thing is that audio CDs are a completely different thing from data CDs. I bought a $200 USB-connected CD player that a couple of people said worked with their Tesla. On my Tesla I could burn audio files to a data CD, and the car could see the player, see the files on the player, and play them. But it could not do anything useful with my audio CDs. So useless for me, as if I wanted to burn a data CD I could better just put the files on a USB flash drive.

I'm ready to buy and try another one if I see credible reports that some Tesla owners actually were able to play audio CDs, but otherwise, I've given up.

Thanks.

The site below has one but it makes a mess in your car. After researching I think I would rip maybe 10 CDs a week to USB stick and after a year or so you would have your collection. I ripped about 15 50s and 60s for my car to usb. It does take time but I am now enjoining them and without the mess that this company offers.

https://www.posspo.net/products/posspo-jupiter-cd-dvd-player...

Thanks for the tip. The Amazon user comments include two from Tesla owners happily saying it worked for them. However they don't clarify whether they succeeded in getting actual audio CDs to play (what I want), or just got WAV files on data CDs to play (useless to me). So I've posted a question through Amazon.

If it works I'll be quite grateful to you.

"Only discs with standard CD music format (.cda) can be indexed and decoded by our CD player."

.cda should be what you're looking for, the standard file extension for a true CD music disc.

found on this page: https://www.amazon.com/CD-DVD-Player-for-Car/dp/B0BRH1XPCM?t...

This is helpful. On the one hand, the actual statement is screwed up. Audio discs don't have .cda files on them. In fact they don't have files on them at all. However .cda files are a thing, and do have a relationship to audio CDs.

Quoting Wikipedia:

So even though they have the details wrong, this strongly implies that in many cases they can play audios CDs in many cars.

Further, their posted videos show one Tesla Y owner plugging in what appears to be an audio CD and playing it.

Since I sent their support a question, (after my question to their Amazon presence instructed me to send the question to their support), I'll wait for an answer, but right now I expect I'll order one of these next week, and think there is a 50% chance it will work for me.

Thanks to all.

https://www.bandcds.co.uk/faqs/what-format-are-audio-cd-file...

I agree with this assertion, published in Wikipedia's article on Compact Disk Digital Audio.

But people see Windows Explorer showing them .cda and imagine they are looking at files on the actual audio CD--which has no files on it at all.

Now data CDs are a different matter altogether, and of course do have files on them. (can be audio, text, executables...)

And lots (and lots, and lots) of redundant data to recover from errors. CDs are really robust.

that always got me was when people pay for downloads of audio.

I don't know all the details, such as what format are they?

The principle is like going paperless on things.

THIS SAVES THE OTHER PARTY A LOT OF MONEY AND RESOURCES.

So the person who agrees, should be compensated.

Why download audio and pay the same as it would be if on media?

And again the entire thing to me is compression.

I totally get most don't know don't care.

Would you want your wedding photographer shooting pics in jpeg format?

If they do, I would hope the photographer is a friend or relative volunteering their services!

I went back and forth with their support on whether this was likely to work in my Teslas. Meanwhile I came across two videos appearing to show actual audio CDs playing in this model player in Teslas, so I'm taking the risk and have one arriving Monday. If it works for me, I'm grateful for the tip.

Meanwhile, in checking (as the support person asked) whether I could play music files from a flash stick plugged into the Tesla USB port I learned that arrangement worked a bit better than I thought. Even if this CD player does not pan out, I'll definitely be playing some music long-stored on my computer while I've driving around town, using a flash drive.

As I do so, I'll remember to think thankfully of mgarledge in particular, and POI Factory generally.

I have a 2013 Jeep that can play music in MP3 & WMA formats via a USB port and it works great. I already have my entire CD/Album collection in those formats and it's much easier to taylor you music to how you feel. Yes, it takes a little time to put a special 'stick' together but for me it's worth it.

The Jeep also has a DVD/CD player, as well as a downloadable hard drive. Between the hard drive and a stick I can have over 3000 songs on board at a time.

My favorite verse in Get A Job:

"Lord, and when I get the paper I read it through and through
I, my girl never fail to see if there is any work for me...
I got to go back to the house, hear that woman's mouth
Preachin' and a cryin', tell me that I'm lyin' about a job
That I never could find"

on me watching some youtubes, the average joe played the guitar or multiple instruments pretty well 30 years ago.

Such ability today would be deemed nearly phenomenal on YouTube...what hasn't changed, imho, is the ability to sing. Maybe that's more or less something that is natural

Many a Saturday night found me here.

Freeport LI.

$5 cover.

Today similar bands are like $50+ lol, at the very same place that cost $8 in 2000.

https://youtu.be/3TFBpyU2zQo?si=y4RucgFrlzbD--DB

I've taken delivery on and made initial use of the unit pointed to by mgarledge.

Quick summary: it works. Yay!

Longer comments: as to mess and fitting in my car, the good news on mess is that the pictures with lots of cables and and extra stuff are for the configuration option in which you hook this unit up to create an FM transmission which is then picked up by your car radio. I'm not using that extra stuff, as I'm relying on a USB connection--single cable.

But all is not entirely well. On my Tesla, as on many ones built in the last couple of years, only the USB-A port in the glove box has any function beyond providing 5V power. So I have to add a tiny USB hub so my player can share that single live port with the flash drive that supports some car functions (dash cam recording, mainly). But this drive is pretty big for a CD drive, and does not fit in the rather small glove compartment of my Tesla model 3. So I stash the player in the console, and either leave the glove compartment door open, or else close the door on the cable.

As to actual function: Usually when I plug it in the Tesla recognizes that it has access to a USB device which can play audio and puts a USB icon on the display of all available icons. Touching that icon gets me a list of tracks on the audio CD (not with useful names, just sequential enumeration). If I touch a track it starts playing it. So far as I can tell, the sound quality is excellent. I've not yet heard it skip, and I've intentionally driven it over speed humps at full speed limit (the car slows to 17 mph for humps it detects, but fails to notice humps that are not striped in one particular pattern).

I'm not clear on just when it remembers what track I was on, or position in track. Sometimes, seems to be the beginning of the answer.

TL:DR I'm happy that I bought the device, and expect to continue using it routinely for a long while.

When I saw you ordered it I thought "O NO, what if I told him about it and it doesn't work" So glad it works for you.
I have a lot of extra time and enjoyed looking for what you needed. I haven't gone upstairs for a while to sew or paint as I feel like I can't keep an eye on my husband up there. If he calls out for me I can't hear him so I just stay down stairs. I surf a lot on the web, watch a lot of youtubs and draw. I try to keep myself busy and when you posted about your problem it gave me something to do that I enjoyed.
Again, glad it worked, Mary

Mary, have you thought about a Baby Monitor where your hubby is, so that you can move around the house more? There are mobile monitors now that you can carry around with you, like a phone.

Our daughter mentioned baby monitors too but I forgot about that.
I have not looked at that but will.
I have two cameras in our living room where he always is in his lift chair.
The trouble with that is when I have them on my phone I don't hear them very well. The baby monitor would be great to go with them. I will look just now.
Thanks for reminding me!
Mary

While I remain grateful that you found it and told me about it, that CD drive really did not fit very well in my Tesla model 3 or model Y. They have small glove compartments. The drive enclosure is nice and solid seeming, but quite a lot larger than actually needed to fit an optical drive. So I had to somehow run a cable from the one and only functional USB port in the glove box to somewhere I could perch the CD drive. I was pinching the cable in the glove box opening pending working up my courage to make a suitable notch.

Mostly it worked, though now and again the car did not see it, which I addressed by unplugging it and plugging it back in, or just ejecting the current CD and putting it back in.

Until, one day, none of that worked. Since then neither car has detected the drive over many trials.

Meanwhile, I've started down another path, which I had steadfastly rejected--ripping some of my CDs to mp3 files I put on a memory stick. It is tedious, but a I'm in a pattern of doing a few per day. It is nice to have access to all the ones I've ripped so far, not just the CDs I happen to have put in the car.

So, Mary, you actually nudged me to a useful solution after all--just not the one either of us initially had in mind.

I do something similar but instead of a "memory stick" I use a SanDisk - Ultra Fit 128GB USB 3.1 Flash Drive. At least in my car it is a bit out of the way, as opposed to a stick, and less likely to get hit and broken off in the socket. What sticks out is about the size of a peanut.

At 128 GB it is about $16. See https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-fit-128gb-usb-3-1...

In spite of my poor hearing I rip music to lossless FLAC.

In my noisy truck I wish for poor dynamic range. Every opera recording I have has extended periods when I can't hear anything and periods when the music feels like an ejection seat.

People call these things by a host of names, and they come in many shapes.
The particular one I am using is this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015CH1PJU
It is rather small as these things go, and at $12 for 128 gigabytes cheap enough. It does get pretty hot serving in the Tesla glove compartment. Otherwise it has been fine. If I don't run out of willingness to spend time ripping, I may run out of room on the device.

As of a few years ago, sound pros I pay attention to said the only genres that were recording to CDs (or other formats) at actual hall dynamic range were classical and jazz. The rest of the vast empire of popular music was mostly using a very narrow dynamic range almost pegged to the top end--part of the "sound wars" where the loudest continuous sound on a radio station was deemed to win the war. I always felt that if reduced dynamic range was used to fit music to the noisy ambience of vehicles it should be done on the player in the vehicle, not pre-imposed on the sound sent to all customers. But in my life I've only heard of one vehicle with such a player--our Nissan Quest, model year 1994.

Fortunately nearly all my CDs are classical music--and most are old enough that their dynamic range is hardly falsified at all. Some more modern ones did follow a little way down the reduced dynamic range road--though not nearly so far as do pop recordings.

Of course.