'Tis The Season for Stealin'

 

With the holidays approaching, the "Porch Pirates" will again be out in force. What do others here do to prevent package theft?

In our case, we have a weatherproof deck box next to the garage door which can't be seen from the road. We've made arrangements with all our regular delivery drivers to put packages in the box. They have to turn around in our driveway anyway so it's actually more convenient than walking up to the front door.

The box is in sight of our security camera which alerts our smartphones whenever it spots activity. We have a doorbell camera which also alerts us in case a delivery is made to the front door. If we're away, I'll call a neighbor to hold the package until we return.

For valuable items, we always specify "signature required".

There is an Amazon locker location at our local supermarket which we use on certain occasions.

If we are away for an extended period, we have accounts with both UPS and FedEx which allow us to specify an alternate delivery location.

Any other tips or suggestions for securing deliveries?

'Tis the season to be jolly

Stealin'? I thought this was the season for:

'Tis the season to be jolly,
Fa, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la!

Move?

Move?

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"signature required"

I've had numerous packages marked "signature required" that were either left on the porch or handed to someone in the driveway/yard and no signatures have been collected. I once had a "signature required" package that was supposedly delivered but I never got. If it was actually delivered they likely left it on the porch and it got ripped off.

These days it's pretty simple. We're retired and don't have to worry about anything being delivered while we are "at work".

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No Door-Bell Ring Or Door Knock Upon Delivery

thrak wrote:

I've had numerous packages marked "signature required" that were either left on the porch or handed to someone in the driveway/yard and no signatures have been collected. I once had a "signature required" package that was supposedly delivered but I never got. If it was actually delivered they likely left it on the porch and it got ripped off.

These days it's pretty simple. We're retired and don't have to worry about anything being delivered while we are "at work".

I'm retired and at home almost always but I used to get a door-bell ring or a door-knock at the time a home delivery. No more. Now I walk out to my front porch and find a package already delivered or a tracking number indicates a delivery has been made when I check online. It seems the only time I get a door-bell ring anymore is from a person canvasing door to door trying to promote or sell something. My door bell still works as I just went out to check to be sure it still works.

I have a porch to the side

I have a porch to the side of my front door and there are bushes in front of it so it isn't visible from the street, you have to walk up to the door to see anything on the porch.

I have permanent delivery instructions for Amazon to have the carrier leave stuff on the porch. I even have a small sign on the door directing deliveries to the porch. Very rarely is anything ever put there though. Almost always on the steps blocking my door.

If I am inside I can't get the door open because the door wedges the boxes against the railing, which is the main reason for leaving items on the porch.

Wifey and I both work so tell a regular carrier, if we even have a regular, is impossible.

I miss the days gone long time ago when no-one locked their doors with no worries about thieves and everyone looked out for each other.

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Alexa tells us

mcginkleschmidt wrote:

I'm retired and at home almost always but I used to get a door-bell ring or a door-knock at the time a home delivery. No more. Now I walk out to my front porch and find a package already delivered or a tracking number indicates a delivery has been made when I check online. It seems the only time I get a door-bell ring anymore is from a person canvasing door to door trying to promote or sell something. My door bell still works as I just went out to check to be sure it still works.

Whenever we get an Amazon delivery we automatically get a notification on our Amazon Echo (you may know her. Her name is Alexa).

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the whole delivery

thing is depressing.

There's a general lack of integrity with drivers now. My wife has seen FedEx throw items to the porch--they were multi thousand dollar Zebra tablets. Why?

On personal items, I am ok with not worrying as they are $100 or $200. But if we were talking about a laptop for personal, not work? Yes, very worried until it's in my hands. Not because it would be stolen, but because FedEx and UPS routinely now misdeliver and do not get a signature even when required by the shipper.

Hope nobody here experiences theft this year...

yep

thrak wrote:

I've had numerous packages marked "signature required" that were either left on the porch or handed to someone in the driveway/yard and no signatures have been collected. I once had a "signature required" package that was supposedly delivered but I never got. If it was actually delivered they likely left it on the porch and it got ripped off.

These days it's pretty simple. We're retired and don't have to worry about anything being delivered while we are "at work".

and at work drivers use a known name, ie one that they got in the past.

Signature Required Not Available

I worked at a shipping company until May of this year. Signature required is not available because of COVID for all of the carriers that we worked with: UPS, USPS, FedEx. We told everyone that asked for it that it would not be honored, so don't pay for it, and also next day delivery was not a money back guarantee. With the shortages of drivers, the carriers have had to cutback on some delivery options.

yep

MikeG1 wrote:

I worked at a shipping company until May of this year. Signature required is not available because of COVID for all of the carriers that we worked with: UPS, USPS, FedEx. We told everyone that asked for it that it would not be honored, so don't pay for it, and also next day delivery was not a money back guarantee. With the shortages of drivers, the carriers have had to cutback on some delivery options.

my experience too--package shows delivered, no reimbursement for lost/stolen/misdelivered goods. At least with #1. They say there's a reason the vehicles have no doors nor airconditioning. Slows the drivers down.

Today an amazon order went to the next door neighbor. Funny in the amazon pic, you can clearly distinguish the wrong street #.

Shrubbery

soberbyker wrote:

I have a porch to the side of my front door and there are bushes in front of it so it isn't visible from the street, you have to walk up to the door to see anything on the porch.

Over the years, my brother in law had several packages stolen from his porch until he planted shrubbery to block the view from the street.

It was an effective strategy. He's had nothing taken since.

No porch pirates

I live in the middle of no where, in the woods on a hill. About 1/4 mile from the road. Haven't had a problem with porch pirates yet.
Oh there is a gate on my driveway also.

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Yup

bdhsfz6 wrote:
soberbyker wrote:

I have a porch to the side of my front door and there are bushes in front of it so it isn't visible from the street, you have to walk up to the door to see anything on the porch.

Over the years, my brother in law had several packages stolen from his porch until he planted shrubbery to block the view from the street.

It was an effective strategy. He's had nothing taken since.

It works, BUT ONLY if the driver doesn't get lazy and just toss the packages on the steps, which are visible from the street, instead of taking two steps to the right and putting them on the porch.

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Consider additional insurance if an option

If you have the option, pay for additional insurance. UPS's liability is limited to US$100.00 on packages with no declared value. If the value of the parcel is higher than $100, you can purchase additional coverage and often at a reasonable cost.

Many years ago I shipped a parcel worth several thousand and it was ultimately lost. They supposedly searched for it but in an hour or two I was advised that after processing the claim, I could expect a check for $100. When I reminded them of the insurance of a few thousand a new search was initiated, and the item was quickly located. If nothing else, added insurance buys you visibility!

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Lockers

I have used the Amazon lockers, and Home Depot lockers for package pickup. Last week I saw Lowe's had also installed lockers.

We live in an area

That has a low crime rate. The last time that I had anything stolen was probably 35 years ago. I had a CB radio in my car and I didn’t lock the doors. I have an idea that it was my next door neighbors son and he stole it so that he could get some marijuana. He had tried to grow some but the police found out and paid him a visit. The boy was not too bright with trying to grow marijuana in plain sight with people all around. wink

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So who's not too bright?

maddog67 wrote:

...The boy was not too bright with trying to grow marijuana in plain sight with people all around. wink

Let me get this straight: The kid wound up with some marijuana and you wound up with what? No GPS. mrgreen

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hahaha

maddog67 wrote:

That has a low crime rate. The last time that I had anything stolen was probably 35 years ago. I had a CB radio in my car and I didn’t lock the doors. I have an idea that it was my next door neighbors son and he stole it so that he could get some marijuana. He had tried to grow some but the police found out and paid him a visit. The boy was not too bright with trying to grow marijuana in plain sight with people all around. wink

When I was a kid I liked talking on the CB while my parents drove on road trips. I guess because my voice sounded like a woman's, truckers tried to flirt with me and called me a bea***. I would tell them I ain't no bea***, and they would laugh and realize I'm a kid. Those were genuinely fun times.

I clearly remember talking on the CB, in my parent's garage, prior to the Rolling Stones appearing on Saturday Night Live--I was talking about being excited to stay up and watch it (not sure what channel but not 19). I could google to find out when that was, but I would guess 1978.

Speaking of which your CB also reminded me of when I had the original Escort radar detector. That was stolen from me.

btw remember I said I have all this gear coming to my house, because we were working 100% remotely? Now that we go into the office every other week, I asked the vendor if we can change the shipping address to our HQ. (it was ordered May/June 2021) He said no, not without a PO being reissued--this has to do with taxation and his accounting department. Makes sense but now I have like 20 pieces of equipment coming to my house with a value of > $60k. I don't like it and although I don't think it would get stolen, I don't want pieces missing like last time....

I never cease to be amazed

I never cease to be amazed by how some people will steal *anything*.

A few months ago I had some medical problems and was issued a handicapped parking card to hang on the mirror of my car. Last month I went to the grocery store one night, and failed to lock the door of my car. When I came out the handicapped parking card was gone.

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signature required

bdhsfz6 wrote:

For valuable items, we always specify "signature required".

That rarely (not never) works for us. Even if the sender specifies signature required, that requirement magically disappears right at the delivery time. Apparently drivers can override that setting somehow. Perhaps there is a separate "signature required-we really mean it this time" for alcohol, etc.

Another Consideration

When ordering from Amazon, at checkout, it lets you know when an item will ship in factory packaging, which may identify the contents. There is an option which allows you to choose Amazon packaging at no added cost.

I ALWAYS use this option regardless of the time of year. No sense in tempting a potential thief.

the only

telecomdigest2 wrote:
bdhsfz6 wrote:

For valuable items, we always specify "signature required".

That rarely (not never) works for us. Even if the sender specifies signature required, that requirement magically disappears right at the delivery time. Apparently drivers can override that setting somehow. Perhaps there is a separate "signature required-we really mean it this time" for alcohol, etc.

one that came to mind because you jarred my memory....I got some high end wine in 2021 as part of a webinar--the sponsor was a NorCal winery. the wine came from CT, as they have limited distribution. Value was likely $300 and they were not full bottles. People drank on the webinar.

FedEx did not release the package without a signature. I had it held at the FedEx and picked it up.

This last year the iPhone 13 Pro was hot (unlike 12, 11, 10s was hot). Even though signature is required, a couple went missing at work. This tends to be in urban areas. Chicago comes to mind.

It would be great if someone from FedEx could come clean, can you override anything? In distribution that leads to loss. For example things can be scanned in a warehouse ahead of time and get misplaced, so they are missing upon delivery. What I mean is they are to be scanned as outbound, then get on to a 53' trailer. If staff can bypass the control, they can scan 2 hours ahead of time, leave everything in staging, and let forklifts load. A lot can happen in 2 hours of sitting in staging, i.e. scanned upon loading.

The the thing is say it's Lowe's who's receiving--they penalize the shipper, so it doesn't happen. How does a consumer "penalize" the shipper when they don't receive something?

As mentioned, I got 27 boxes delivered to my house, 1 was missing should have been 28. It was a $3,500 tablet.

The 27 boxes showed delivered at 11:xx AM, the missing one 5:xx PM. Common sense. They don't come to a residence multiple times per day. Where did the tablet go? My money is on lost, not stolen. But once discovered, stolen.

Danby Porch Mailbox

Danby is a Canadian company, that has developed a product called the Porch Mailbox, to prevent thefts from the porch. The Porch Mailbox can come in a a Smart or Unsmart version. Unsmart has a slot, much like a regular mailbox that allows the parcel to be dropped in, but does not allow arms to reach in.

The Smart model can be supplied with cameras, smart phone control, two way communications.

https://www.danby.com/product-categories/parcel-mailbox/

Practical if you get a lot of parcels.

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Haven't had a problem yet

Despite package thefts in the area, we have a few things working for us and have never lost a delivery to porch pirates:
* The police regularly use bait packages here and actually arrest perpetrators.
* We have a gang mailbox with parcel lockers. Out of sight and would take more than a snatch'n'grab to get something, but of course only for USPS deliveries.
* Our front step is only accessible through a long walkway, passing multiple cameras from down the block all the way to the door. If they snag something, they and their vehicle are not getting away unseen.
* We leave out a box of snacks and drinks for the delivery drivers. They come all the way up to the door every time and place the packages carefully, before helping themselves.
* We grab our packages within minutes of drop-off, since I'm almost always at home, working, on delivery days.
* I enable notifications for shipping and delivery whenever possible, so I know to be extra diligent when something's arriving.

I've thought about those PIN-enabled package lockers before, but since we haven't had a problem, I don't want to make more work for the delivery drivers. Pretty much everything we get is replaceable, so with clear evidence of theft, it would be merely inconvenient.

Not Surprising.

johnnatash4 wrote:
telecomdigest2 wrote:
bdhsfz6 wrote:

For valuable items, we always specify "signature required".

That rarely (not never) works for us. Even if the sender specifies signature required, that requirement magically disappears right at the delivery time. Apparently drivers can override that setting somehow. Perhaps there is a separate "signature required-we really mean it this time" for alcohol, etc.

one that came to mind because you jarred my memory....I got some high end wine in 2021 as part of a webinar--the sponsor was a NorCal winery. the wine came from CT, as they have limited distribution. Value was likely $300 and they were not full bottles. People drank on the webinar.

FedEx did not release the package without a signature. I had it held at the FedEx and picked it up.

This last year the iPhone 13 Pro was hot (unlike 12, 11, 10s was hot). Even though signature is required, a couple went missing at work. This tends to be in urban areas. Chicago comes to mind.

It would be great if someone from FedEx could come clean, can you override anything? In distribution that leads to loss. For example things can be scanned in a warehouse ahead of time and get misplaced, so they are missing upon delivery. What I mean is they are to be scanned as outbound, then get on to a 53' trailer. If staff can bypass the control, they can scan 2 hours ahead of time, leave everything in staging, and let forklifts load. A lot can happen in 2 hours of sitting in staging, i.e. scanned upon loading.

The the thing is say it's Lowe's who's receiving--they penalize the shipper, so it doesn't happen. How does a consumer "penalize" the shipper when they don't receive something?

As mentioned, I got 27 boxes delivered to my house, 1 was missing should have been 28. It was a $3,500 tablet.

The 27 boxes showed delivered at 11:xx AM, the missing one 5:xx PM. Common sense. They don't come to a residence multiple times per day. Where did the tablet go? My money is on lost, not stolen. But once discovered, stolen.

Not surprising when some FedEx drivers just dump packages! :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/12/01/fedex-drive...

140 dumped packages were just found near my location as well.

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-et- wrote:

I never cease to be amazed by how some people will steal *anything*.

A few months ago I had some medical problems and was issued a handicapped parking card to hang on the mirror of my car. Last month I went to the grocery store one night, and failed to lock the door of my car. When I came out the handicapped parking card was gone.

- Tom -

Well that's instant front row parking, it's valuable. Where I live they will paint a HP spot in front of your home BUT ONLY if you have a HP license plate, even though the process (and requirements) is exactly the same for both, at least here in PA. The only real differences are the license plate you have to pay for and stays with the car, and the hanger can be placed on any vehicle as long as the legal holder is the reason for its use. And that's why my township won't issue a spot based on a hanger, they feel it'll become a saved spot for homes with many cars, say, last one home gets the spot, although once the spot is painted a person with either a hanger or plate can use the spot.

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times have changed

soberbyker wrote:
-et- wrote:

I never cease to be amazed by how some people will steal *anything*.

A few months ago I had some medical problems and was issued a handicapped parking card to hang on the mirror of my car. Last month I went to the grocery store one night, and failed to lock the door of my car. When I came out the handicapped parking card was gone.

- Tom -

Well that's instant front row parking, it's valuable. Where I live they will paint a HP spot in front of your home BUT ONLY if you have a HP license plate, even though the process (and requirements) is exactly the same for both, at least here in PA. The only real differences are the license plate you have to pay for and stays with the car, and the hanger can be placed on any vehicle as long as the legal holder is the reason for its use. And that's why my township won't issue a spot based on a hanger, they feel it'll become a saved spot for homes with many cars, say, last one home gets the spot, although once the spot is painted a person with either a hanger or plate can use the spot.

We live in a totally different era than our parents. They used the expression, "Kids today," when in fact they were the ones who partied like there is no tomorrow (born in the late 40's and 50's). My generation is innocent in comparison!

Anyway, I'm old enough to consider it to be "low" to use a handicapped placard when not handicapped. Really low ethics/integrity. With that being said, I don't exactly say anything when I see someone take a handicapped space and walk briskly to the venue. Someone and I think it was here even said, it could be that the disability acts up, so who am I to judge whether it's properly used or not. But it is low class to use it for convenience when it belongs to someone else...

generalizations

johnnatash4 wrote:
soberbyker wrote:
-et- wrote:

I never cease to be amazed by how some people will steal *anything*.

A few months ago I had some medical problems and was issued a handicapped parking card to hang on the mirror of my car. Last month I went to the grocery store one night, and failed to lock the door of my car. When I came out the handicapped parking card was gone.

- Tom -

Well that's instant front row parking, it's valuable. Where I live they will paint a HP spot in front of your home BUT ONLY if you have a HP license plate, even though the process (and requirements) is exactly the same for both, at least here in PA. The only real differences are the license plate you have to pay for and stays with the car, and the hanger can be placed on any vehicle as long as the legal holder is the reason for its use. And that's why my township won't issue a spot based on a hanger, they feel it'll become a saved spot for homes with many cars, say, last one home gets the spot, although once the spot is painted a person with either a hanger or plate can use the spot.

We live in a totally different era than our parents. They used the expression, "Kids today," when in fact they were the ones who partied like there is no tomorrow (born in the late 40's and 50's). My generation is innocent in comparison!

Anyway, I'm old enough to consider it to be "low" to use a handicapped placard when not handicapped. Really low ethics/integrity. With that being said, I don't exactly say anything when I see someone take a handicapped space and walk briskly to the venue. Someone and I think it was here even said, it could be that the disability acts up, so who am I to judge whether it's properly used or not. But it is low class to use it for convenience when it belongs to someone else...

John and others going down this line of discussion, it is unfair to generalize people by the generation they were born in. There are good and bad examples to be found in all generations including mine (boomers, like me born 1947 who you targeted) as well as millennials, gen-x, gen-y etc. I don't want to start a political discussion, and hopefully Globe Turtle or JM will remove this post and yours as this type of discussion goes against the forum rules and invariably goes astray.

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ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS

johnnatash4 wrote:

~snip~

Someone and I think it was here even said, it could be that the disability acts up, so who am I to judge whether it's properly used or not.

~snip~

Not all (eligible for the tag or plate) disabilities are visible. I don't use a wheelchair, or a cane, but I can't walk very far without stopping to rest and catch my breath.

https://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fo...

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jmo

alandb wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:
soberbyker wrote:
-et- wrote:

I never cease to be amazed by how some people will steal *anything*.

A few months ago I had some medical problems and was issued a handicapped parking card to hang on the mirror of my car. Last month I went to the grocery store one night, and failed to lock the door of my car. When I came out the handicapped parking card was gone.

- Tom -

Well that's instant front row parking, it's valuable. Where I live they will paint a HP spot in front of your home BUT ONLY if you have a HP license plate, even though the process (and requirements) is exactly the same for both, at least here in PA. The only real differences are the license plate you have to pay for and stays with the car, and the hanger can be placed on any vehicle as long as the legal holder is the reason for its use. And that's why my township won't issue a spot based on a hanger, they feel it'll become a saved spot for homes with many cars, say, last one home gets the spot, although once the spot is painted a person with either a hanger or plate can use the spot.

We live in a totally different era than our parents. They used the expression, "Kids today," when in fact they were the ones who partied like there is no tomorrow (born in the late 40's and 50's). My generation is innocent in comparison!

Anyway, I'm old enough to consider it to be "low" to use a handicapped placard when not handicapped. Really low ethics/integrity. With that being said, I don't exactly say anything when I see someone take a handicapped space and walk briskly to the venue. Someone and I think it was here even said, it could be that the disability acts up, so who am I to judge whether it's properly used or not. But it is low class to use it for convenience when it belongs to someone else...

John and others going down this line of discussion, it is unfair to generalize people by the generation they were born in. There are good and bad examples to be found in all generations including mine (boomers, like me born 1947 who you targeted) as well as millennials, gen-x, gen-y etc. I don't want to start a political discussion, and hopefully Globe Turtle or JM will remove this post and yours as this type of discussion goes against the forum rules and invariably goes astray.

If we're not open to discussion, that is fine.

I was on a forum where moderators routinely changed what people said, and all the folks on the "in" thought it was funny. One day, I said that's not what I said, and quit that forum. Hope that doesn't happen here.

My mom was born in that era, and used the phrase, "Kid's today." All I was saying was that some in her generation partied hard, but my mom did not.

You used the word targeted, that you and others your age were targeted. Were you really?

If you feel that way, it was not intended to be so. That may not be worth anything, but that's my .02 and about all that I can contribute.

yep

soberbyker wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:

~snip~

Someone and I think it was here even said, it could be that the disability acts up, so who am I to judge whether it's properly used or not.

~snip~

Not all (eligible for the tag or plate) disabilities are visible. I don't use a wheelchair, or a cane, but I can't walk very far without stopping to rest and catch my breath.

https://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fo...

I thought that it may have been here. So when I see someone walking very fast from a handicapped space to the venue, I no longer assume they don't qualify for the placard. That's the job of LE. Our lives are busy enough as they are, and we're in a pressure cooker situation now, why add to it, right?

Today

Package delivered this morning. Left on porch. I'm surprised that it arrived so early. 7:01 AM.

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johnnatash4 wrote:

thing is depressing.

There's a general lack of integrity with drivers now. My wife has seen FedEx throw items to the porch--they were multi thousand dollar Zebra tablets. Why?

On personal items, I am ok with not worrying as they are $100 or $200. But if we were talking about a laptop for personal, not work? Yes, very worried until it's in my hands. Not because it would be stolen, but because FedEx and UPS routinely now misdeliver and do not get a signature even when required by the shipper.

Hope nobody here experiences theft this year...

I think all this is a result of company performance measurements that can't measure anything but number of packages delivered.

No more personal delivery.

I have found that also. They used to ring the door bell and they would hand you the package or at least see it on the porch. Now they just throw it on the porch from the walkway.

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bsp131 wrote:

I have found that also. They used to ring the door bell and they would hand you the package or at least see it on the porch. Now they just throw it on the porch from the walkway.

At least they got out of the vehicle before throwing. Laser Ship used to throw it from the car.

had 3 deliveries

2 UPS and 1 FedEx in the last 2 days, I was home. In all 3 cases the person threw the boxes and there was a thud that I could hear. UPS was the driver in a uniform. FedEx was just a passenger in a hoodie.

I get that they don't care, maybe aren't paid to care, or they don't have time to care (they have a lot of deliveries, FedEx had two guys). We have no choice but to accept it. Mine were all tablets, so likely those 3 boxes have a value of $30k+.