New Amazon tracking system.

 

I received an Amazon order today, delivered by the Amazon truck. When I checked the tracking link it not only gave the expected delivery time window, but showed a map with the exact location of the Amazon truck and the number of stops they were from my house. As I refreshed the screen every few minutes, it would update the location and number of stops. When it showed the truck on my street, I looked out the window and sure enough, there it was about a block up the street from me.

Maybe that system has been available in other areas, but this is the first time I have seen it where I live. While it was great being able to get a very accurate view and estimate of when my package would arrive, it seems to me that this will just worsen the problem of delivery theft. I am almost always home, so I can retrieve my package as soon as it is delivered, but for people who work away from home, this could increase the theft risk.

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Vaccines too

And Pfizer plans to have GPS tracking with temperature alerts in each reusable shipping container of their mRNA Covid-19 vaccine. What a world we live in.

alandb wrote: I received an

alandb wrote:

I received an Amazon order today, delivered by the Amazon truck. When I checked the tracking link it not only gave the expected delivery time window, but showed a map with the exact location of the Amazon truck and the number of stops they were from my house. As I refreshed the screen every few minutes, it would update the location and number of stops. When it showed the truck on my street, I looked out the window and sure enough, there it was about a block up the street from me.

Maybe that system has been available in other areas, but this is the first time I have seen it where I live. While it was great being able to get a very accurate view and estimate of when my package would arrive, it seems to me that this will just worsen the problem of delivery theft. I am almost always home, so I can retrieve my package as soon as it is delivered, but for people who work away from home, this could increase the theft risk.

No quite sure if I understand your comment. Why would it worsen the theft problem. If your not home and you know they are dropping off a delivery, you could then contact a neighbor to get the package until you get home.

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never seen an Amazon delivery truck

While I've seen lots of press articles referring to actual Amazon deliveries, all that I've actually seen evidence of is intercity trucking. Here in Albuquerque it is common for a package to start from a Phoenix or Tucson Amazon warehouse under a USPS tracking ID, but only transition from some unstated partner to actual USPS handling after arriving at a hub here in town. Even the Sunday deliveries arrive in USPS trucks, not Amazon trucks.

I look forward to enjoying the system you describe. I look forward even more to shortened delivery times for the more popular items late next year when Amazon brings into service their first New Mexico warehouse, well under twenty miles from my house. Maybe then I'll see their trucks on final delivery.

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Alan,

we've had that tracking system for a while. I typically get an alert on my smart phone when the truck is 10 stops away. You can then click to follow on the map, if desired. It's quite accurate in terms of when the truck rolls up in front of your home.

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alandb wrote: ... Maybe

alandb wrote:

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Maybe that system has been available in other areas, but this is the first time I have seen it where I live. While it was great being able to get a very accurate view and estimate of when my package would arrive, it seems to me that this will just worsen the problem of delivery theft. I am almost always home, so I can retrieve my package as soon as it is delivered, but for people who work away from home, this could increase the theft risk.

I have never seen tracking data secured, but tracking number/carrier relationship is (I think) very obscure. A program could try successive tracking numbers and when a "live" one was found could obtain the lat/long to check if it was in the neighborhood. If yes, it could follow the truck online. This approach seems unlikely.

If the delivery goes awry,

If the delivery goes awry, the more information you have, the better. Two or three years ago my truck battery went totally dead all at once. I had used the truck a few hours before and the battery seemed fine. There was not even enough juice in the battery to unlock my door with my key fob but my door key would manually unlock the door. For 24 hours I put on a trickle charge with my Battery Tender but the battery wouldn’t take a charge, nothing. I had another vehicle but I was dead in the driveway with no way to get around the dead truck.

I ordered a replacement Yellowtop Optima Battery online from Summit Racing about 50 miles south of me. The battery was shipped by USPS with a tracking number. A couple of days later I was at home waiting for my battery delivery so I could install it. About the middle of the afternoon I checked my tracking number online and found it showed as being delivered about thirty minutes earlier. I was outside working in the front yard of my house and no delivery had occurred at my house in the past couple of hours.

I phoned USPS and I was told they would have the delivery driver phone back within an hour. After a couple of hours with no phone call from the UPS driver, I phoned UPS again but nobody seemed to care. Their information showed the delivery had been made and they were done with the matter. I was beside myself as it seemed I was going to have to buy a second battery for another $210 plus tax.

I was in a stew thinking about having to spend money for another battery when I heard my doorbell ring. It was a neighbor lady that had brought my battery to me. The battery was delivered to her house number 5216 instead of my house number 5276 shown on the shipping label. I expressed my sincere gratitude to my neighbor after explaining the situation to her.

My experience with Amazon has been they have been very customer focused and probably would have offered to replace the mis-delivered battery at no additional charge if it had failed to show and would have taken my word for it. Amazon has been photographing my delivered packages at my front door and an image would have been immediately apparent the delivery was somewhere other than my house.

Boo to UPS and their dyslexic driver.

Necessary

CraigW wrote:

And Pfizer plans to have GPS tracking with temperature alerts in each reusable shipping container of their mRNA Covid-19 vaccine. What a world we live in.

That is necessary because the Pfizer vaccine will present one of the most difficult logistical nightmares known. It is to be shipped at -94 deg F! That will require very specialized equipment in a chain across the country. I think at the moment it is being manufactured at one facility in the States, in Michigan as best I recall. There is also a facility in Belgium.

In contrast the Novavax vaccine, about three weeks behind the Pfizer, will require simple refrigeration for shipment and storage, not unlike what is currently done for a flu shot.

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They also take a picture ...

Amazon also takes a picture of the delivered package on your doorstep and includes the picture in the delivery confirmation email. That way if your package turns up missing, you will know whether or not it was delivered to your house or a wrong address.

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USPS or UPS

mcginkleschmidt wrote:

If the delivery goes awry, the more information you have, the better. Two or three years ago my truck battery went totally dead all at once. I had used the truck a few hours before and the battery seemed fine. There was not even enough juice in the battery to unlock my door with my key fob but my door key would manually unlock the door. For 24 hours I put on a trickle charge with my Battery Tender but the battery wouldn’t take a charge, nothing. I had another vehicle but I was dead in the driveway with no way to get around the dead truck.

I ordered a replacement Yellowtop Optima Battery online from Summit Racing about 50 miles south of me. The battery was shipped by USPS with a tracking number. A couple of days later I was at home waiting for my battery delivery so I could install it. About the middle of the afternoon I checked my tracking number online and found it showed as being delivered about thirty minutes earlier. I was outside working in the front yard of my house and no delivery had occurred at my house in the past couple of hours.

I phoned USPS and I was told they would have the delivery driver phone back within an hour. After a couple of hours with no phone call from the UPS driver, I phoned UPS again but nobody seemed to care. Their information showed the delivery had been made and they were done with the matter. I was beside myself as it seemed I was going to have to buy a second battery for another $210 plus tax.

I was in a stew thinking about having to spend money for another battery when I heard my doorbell ring. It was a neighbor lady that had brought my battery to me. The battery was delivered to her house number 5216 instead of my house number 5276 shown on the shipping label. I expressed my sincere gratitude to my neighbor after explaining the situation to her.

My experience with Amazon has been they have been very customer focused and probably would have offered to replace the mis-delivered battery at no additional charge if it had failed to show and would have taken my word for it. Amazon has been photographing my delivered packages at my front door and an image would have been immediately apparent the delivery was somewhere other than my house.

Boo to UPS and their dyslexic driver.

You switch back and forth between USPS and UPS. Which was it. I have found United Parcel Service very good while USPS (the Postal Service) is borderline useless for tracking.

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Amazon has

Amazon has been using the map system to notify you of the status of your delivery in the Phoenix AZ. Area for at least a year now. They also email you a delivery notification with a picture of the delivered package. The Amazon deliveries are usually made in an Amazon truck.

In our small city in British Columbia, Amazon Canada often uses a private delivery service which in the last few month have started to email you to report that your purchase is out for delivery but no map is available yet. The report says how many stops the driver has and what number your package is in the list. They also email a picture of the delivered package.

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Another Amazon experience

A couple of years ago, on a sunny Sunday afternoon, my wife and I were returning home only to see an Amazon delivery truck in our driveway. We were expecting a delivery so I just pulled over to the curb and waited for the truck to leave, which it did a few seconds later. I should note here that we were in our car waiting on the passenger side of the truck so the driver probably never even noticed that we were there.
Anyway, we drove into our garage, closed the garage door and went into the house. My wife went to the front door to retrieve the package and lo and behold it wasn't there. Now that was strange. My wife called Amazon customer serviced and they confirmed that the package was indeed reported as delivered and that they'd have the driver call her.
A few minutes later the driver called and when my wife asked him about the package he kind of chuckled and said he'd hid it in the bushes near the front door. When my wife asked him why in the world he would do that, he said he does that once in a while so the customer could have some fun looking for it. Remember that he wasn't aware that we had seen him deliver the package.
So we went to look for the package and sure enough it was between a couple of bushes. To be truthful we just thought the driver was somewhat of a whack-job and didn't think much about the incident after that.
Then last year our local paper ran an article about some of the tricks some of the dishonest Amazon drivers pull in order to be able to steal packages, and the hidden package trick was mentioned. That was the first time we realized what had happened. There's not a doubt in our minds that the driver or perhaps an accomplice was going to come back some time later to help themselves to our package.
We figure that the driver put the package by the door, took the obligatory picture of it to prove delivery, then hid it for later pickup by somebody not named us. It would have worked, too, if we hadn't seen the truck in our drive. We didn't see him hide anything because the truck was between us and the front door but we just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Phil

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Sorry for the confusion

John from PA wrote:
mcginkleschmidt wrote:

If the delivery goes awry, the more information you have, the better. Two or three years ago my truck battery went totally dead all at once. I had used the truck a few hours before and the battery seemed fine. There was not even enough juice in the battery to unlock my door with my key fob but my door key would manually unlock the door. For 24 hours I put on a trickle charge with my Battery Tender but the battery wouldn’t take a charge, nothing. I had another vehicle but I was dead in the driveway with no way to get around the dead truck.

I ordered a replacement Yellowtop Optima Battery online from Summit Racing about 50 miles south of me. The battery was shipped by USPS with a tracking number. A couple of days later I was at home waiting for my battery delivery so I could install it. About the middle of the afternoon I checked my tracking number online and found it showed as being delivered about thirty minutes earlier. I was outside working in the front yard of my house and no delivery had occurred at my house in the past couple of hours.

I phoned USPS and I was told they would have the delivery driver phone back within an hour. After a couple of hours with no phone call from the UPS driver, I phoned UPS again but nobody seemed to care. Their information showed the delivery had been made and they were done with the matter. I was beside myself as it seemed I was going to have to buy a second battery for another $210 plus tax.

I was in a stew thinking about having to spend money for another battery when I heard my doorbell ring. It was a neighbor lady that had brought my battery to me. The battery was delivered to her house number 5216 instead of my house number 5276 shown on the shipping label. I expressed my sincere gratitude to my neighbor after explaining the situation to her.

My experience with Amazon has been they have been very customer focused and probably would have offered to replace the mis-delivered battery at no additional charge if it had failed to show and would have taken my word for it. Amazon has been photographing my delivered packages at my front door and an image would have been immediately apparent the delivery was somewhere other than my house.

Boo to UPS and their dyslexic driver.

You switch back and forth between USPS and UPS. Which was it. I have found United Parcel Service very good while USPS (the Postal Service) is borderline useless for tracking.

Damn if I didn't screw it up. redface I'm sorry for the confusion It was UPS (United Parcel Service).

Yep

We've had real time tracking this side of the pond for quite a while now, very helpful to judge when you need to be home smile

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don't

think it's new, I've noticed that for a long time. It usually doesn't matter, but, a couple weekends ago I ordered that top strut mount for my wife's car, on a Sat., and it showed that it would be delivered 1 day, not 2. So I decided to take it out, and now I had to wait for the part, and it was going to rain.

Around 1500 EDT (think it was still daylight savings), it began to show 8 stops away, etc. That was one time I was literally waiting.

UPS has always had that, and it starts with the truck being at the airport.

Since UPS loses so many things these days, I think they should focus more on delivering packages correctly and accurately (like FedEx they don't get a signature anymore even when that service is paid for) than gimmicks (they just lost a $3000 tablet for work--anyone ever go through their claim process? 'nuff said).

Tracking Systems

These online tracking systems have been available for some time in different parts of the country. UPS has one in my area but you have to sign up for it. I'm told Fedex has one too but I've never used it. Amazon will start delivering directly here in the near future.

Since packages are often delivered when no one is home, I use this scheme to prevent theft. I have a large deck box next to my garage door. I've asked all the delivery service drivers to put packages in the box to keep them out of sight and out of the weather. It's also more convenient for them since they don't have to walk up the steps to the front porch.

I have a small "flag", similar to the type used on a mailbox, which is raised when the box is opened. I can check my security camera via smartphone to see if the flag is up and a package delivered. If the package is valuable and I don't plan to be home for a while, I'll call a neighbor to retrieve it.

This scheme will become obsolete however when all the delivery services offer this convenient online tracking service.

I'm not sure what I'll do when Amazon starts delivering by drone though grin

what

bdhsfz6 wrote:

These online tracking systems have been available for some time in different parts of the country. UPS has one in my area but you have to sign up for it. I'm told Fedex has one too but I've never used it. Amazon will start delivering directly here in the near future.

Since packages are often delivered when no one is home, I use this scheme to prevent theft. I have a large deck box next to my garage door. I've asked all the delivery service drivers to put packages in the box to keep them out of sight and out of the weather. It's also more convenient for them since they don't have to walk up the steps to the front porch.

I have a small "flag", similar to the type used on a mailbox, which is raised when the box is opened. I can check my security camera via smartphone to see if the flag is up and a package delivered. If the package is valuable and I don't plan to be home for a while, I'll call a neighbor to retrieve it.

This scheme will become obsolete however when all the delivery services offer this convenient online tracking service.

I'm not sure what I'll do when Amazon starts delivering by drone though grin

What's hilarious is that more often than not, the amazon delivery driver takes a pic of the package on the ground. It's funny when it's not my house and I don't know whose house it is. It's the same routine, amazon will say give it 48 hours then come back. On a couple of occasions because of the dollar amount I said I want some sort of concession, so they put $5 on the gift card balance. What I mean is if a $500 item is lost, I don't enjoy waiting the 48 hours, whereas if it's a $10 item, no big deal....I think at one point I was able to say, "In 12 years of ordering, I've only had 1 amazon delivery lost." That's easily now about 30....and when I really need the item like a car repair, I know it's a first world problem, but it's upsetting...

Local experience

It's almost comical in our local, as the Amazon warehouse departure point is about a mile from my house, the notification comes and package is on porch 5 minutes later.

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Amazon delivery

After many years of waiting for hours for packages that had delivery time of end of day, but you knew they could be there by early morning or midday, I now have Amazon delivering to lockers at a gas station less than five minutes from where we live.

I get a notification when it is delivered to the locker and I have three days to pick it up. If not picked up it will be sent back and my account get credited. So now I can sleep in, not having to worry about missing the delivery and somebody stealing the package. I can pick up the package on my time schedule.

Of course if your delivery is that vital car part this it not what to use.

At checkout you have a choice of delivery to the locker or your regular address. Items that are too big to fit in the locker will be delivered to your regular address.

This delivery option is probably not available everywhere.

/JCA

I don't tend

to order things this expensive, but I have something that cost over $600 coming tomorrow. If it ends up lost, and I have to wait 48 hours before doing anything, I'll be bummed.

As far as the locker thing goes? I've done The Home Depot using paypal (get 5%), and upon opening the locker at the store, nothing is inside.

There's a lot of carelessness today, and I believe some is COVID related....

Gas Station Lockers

A friend of mine used to have all kinds of issues with porch pirates and he uses the gas station locker all the time now. He loves it!

I had to wait

1.5 days at home waiting for my pkg (not Amazon) to arrive a few days ago! No updated info on the International Shipping company's website. Just a horrible experience.

I guess

I'm weird. I wanted to get these pliers for hose clamps made in Germany. They were about $15 USD cheaper on amazon, if they came from the UK. So I did that, and it was flawless! lol I think it came DHL. So funny when we exepect that something could go wrong, it doesn't, but then on simple things, it does....

Your Whole Foods may have them

My local Whole Foods location has a small bank of Amazon lockers just inside the front door. If I want to try the locker option that seems a good place. But for now my front door seems just fine.

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In addition to the truck

In addition to the truck tracking which we have had for some time Amazon also has nearby facilities where you can pick up your package if theft is a concern. Stealing something where you do not know the resale value is stupid.

Package thieves are at the bottom of the criminal hierarchy and I doubt most do not have the computer skills to track a truck. More likely they will follow one and steal a package after it drives away.

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UPS has similar “truck tracking”

UPS has essentially the same thing available on the day of delivery. The truck seems to pause for 20 minutes about a 1/2 mile away. My driver always smiles when I ask “how was the sandwich at Rocco’s?”

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State Line

I know someone who lives near the state line who has items sent to a nearby Amazon locker in Oregon to avoid the state and local sales taxes in Washington.

Cuts both ways

That's okay, if you have an Alexa device, she's keeping track of you and what you're up to for Amazon, too.

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hehe

Well nothing got lost thus far, including the $600 device. I was thinking should it be treated any differently? It was just tossed on the steps. In the old days, remember signing for stuff? This year, not even a Lenovo ThinkPad or a Toughbook that was $4k got the requisite signatures....and as mentioned for work a $3k Zebra tablet is lost and nothing we can do, UPS keeps closing the claim....(Toughbook above was work not personal, but sent to my home, ThinkPad my own)

p.s. I did ask Alexa do you spy on people, and there was a canned response lol

The downside of default shipping insurance coverage

johnnatash4 wrote:

Well nothing got lost thus far, including the $600 device. I was thinking should it be treated any differently? It was just tossed on the steps. In the old days, remember signing for stuff? This year, not even a Lenovo ThinkPad or a Toughbook that was $4k got the requisite signatures....and as mentioned for work a $3k Zebra tablet is lost and nothing we can do, UPS keeps closing the claim....(Toughbook above was work not personal, but sent to my home, ThinkPad my own)

p.s. I did ask Alexa do you spy on people, and there was a canned response lol

One of the problems with the default insurance coverage on many shipments is it is only $100 to $125 so someone like UPS will not make a major effort to look for a lost package. Odds are in their favor as well; supposedly 80% of lost packages do show up.

Many years ago I defied company policy that said we weren’t to pay for additional insurance. But the added insurance was only a very small amount. Once I shipped something worth $5000 and insured it for 1/2 that. It was lost in shipment. When I called UPS I got “lip service” until I mentioned the $2500 insurance. The package was found within a few hours!

It’s worth considering insurance insurance, if that option is available.

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Uber Eats delivery

What do you do when Uber Eats drop off food delivery that you didn’t order? I called the restaurant and was told it wasn’t my issue.I tossed it out after an hour.

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my experience as well

johnnatash4 wrote:

Well nothing got lost thus far, including the $600 device. I was thinking should it be treated any differently? It was just tossed on the steps. In the old days, remember signing for stuff? This year, not even a Lenovo ThinkPad or a Toughbook that was $4k got the requisite signatures....and as mentioned for work a $3k Zebra tablet is lost and nothing we can do, UPS keeps closing the claim....(Toughbook above was work not personal, but sent to my home, ThinkPad my own)

p.s. I did ask Alexa do you spy on people, and there was a canned response lol

Yeah I've ordered some equally pricey items this year. The website will say an adult signature will be required on delivery. But both UPS and FedEx be like NO GET AWAY YOU SIGN NOTHIN'! when they deliver. And if I'm not here, it's just tossed on the porch and off they drive. I haven't lost anything either but I'm guessing porch pirates will take advantage of relaxed security measures this festive though Covid-infested holiday season, especially looking for Playstation 5-sized boxes. Fire up your Alexa home security cameras and hope she doesn't capture you slipping and falling on ice on your steps with a traitorous family member sending the footage on to America's Funniest Home Videos.

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re: Never Seen An Amazon Delivery Truck

First actual Amazon marked trucks I saw were vans like those Sprinter vans here in the Philadelphia area, they are a grayish color with the Amazon 'smile', they were using plain white vans prior.

A few weeks ago I started seeing marked trucks like UPS uses, but in the same colors as the vans. It seems that Amazon has completely put their business in their own hands. UPS must not like that.

archae86 wrote:

While I've seen lots of press articles referring to actual Amazon deliveries, all that I've actually seen evidence of is intercity trucking. Here in Albuquerque it is common for a package to start from a Phoenix or Tucson Amazon warehouse under a USPS tracking ID, but only transition from some unstated partner to actual USPS handling after arriving at a hub here in town. Even the Sunday deliveries arrive in USPS trucks, not Amazon trucks.

I look forward to enjoying the system you describe. I look forward even more to shortened delivery times for the more popular items late next year when Amazon brings into service their first New Mexico warehouse, well under twenty miles from my house. Maybe then I'll see their trucks on final delivery.

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Tracking and representation

So when I order something from Amazon, the order tracking commonly shows me a UPS or USPS tracking number. These days, the ones with USPS tracking numbers generally do show up at my door in a USPS truck, but review of the tracking strongly suggests that "somebody else" transports the package from Phoenix, Tucson, Dallas, or any one of several California locations to Albuquerque. That someone else gets referred to as a shipping partner. I assume it is Amazon, or a subcontractor, not a major. Physical handover to USPS happens at a hub here in town, usually in the wee hours of the morning on delivery day.

Long preamble, short question. When Amazon itself handles the final delivery, do you get a tracking number? What kind of carrier indentity information do you see?

Second question. For those of you in Amazon-marked truck final delivery areas, do you still get some of your Amazon deliveries by UPS? Maybe the ones that come from more distant warehouses?

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not sure

archae86 wrote:

So when I order something from Amazon, the order tracking commonly shows me a UPS or USPS tracking number. These days, the ones with USPS tracking numbers generally do show up at my door in a USPS truck, but review of the tracking strongly suggests that "somebody else" transports the package from Phoenix, Tucson, Dallas, or any one of several California locations to Albuquerque. That someone else gets referred to as a shipping partner. I assume it is Amazon, or a subcontractor, not a major. Physical handover to USPS happens at a hub here in town, usually in the wee hours of the morning on delivery day.

Long preamble, short question. When Amazon itself handles the final delivery, do you get a tracking number? What kind of carrier indentity information do you see?

Second question. For those of you in Amazon-marked truck final delivery areas, do you still get some of your Amazon deliveries by UPS? Maybe the ones that come from more distant warehouses?

Marked trucks do have a tracking number and you get sent a photo of the item delivered to your door.

Yes some things still come from UPS to my door, I haven't thought to look for a pattern, maybe it's items that are not 'fulfilled by Amazon"

As for the 'shipping partner' ... My brother-in-law works for a part of UPS called "Mail Innovations" where they in fact handle the items most of the way from start to finish, passing the items off to the local USPS, for the last mile, so to speak.

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Amazon Delivery After 10PM ?

Here is something new. I placed a food order through Amazon Pantry yesterday and it was on my doorstep when I woke up this morning! It wasn't there when I went to bed at 10PM which means it was delivered sometime overnight!

Anyone else have this experience?

yes

bdhsfz6 wrote:

Here is something new. I placed a food order through Amazon Pantry yesterday and it was on my doorstep when I woke up this morning! It wasn't there when I went to bed at 10PM which means it was delivered sometime overnight!

Anyone else have this experience?

Yes, it's relatively new but there are some Prime items that are marked something like get it before 8am if ordered by ....

I used it recently to get something I actually needed the next morning.

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Interesting Circumstances

soberbyker wrote:
bdhsfz6 wrote:

Here is something new. I placed a food order through Amazon Pantry yesterday and it was on my doorstep when I woke up this morning! It wasn't there when I went to bed at 10PM which means it was delivered sometime overnight!

Anyone else have this experience?

Yes, it's relatively new but there are some Prime items that are marked something like get it before 8am if ordered by ....

I used it recently to get something I actually needed the next morning.

I think Amazon (Jeff Bezos richest man in the world) perhaps he has sights as a thorn in side to competitors like UPS & FedEX.

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One ramification

johnm405 wrote:

Not quite sure if I understand your comment. Why would it worsen the theft problem. If your not home and you know they are dropping off a delivery, you could then contact a neighbor to get the package until you get home.

One ramification of tracing is because Viagra shipments are no longer being stolen the cops are not wasting time looking for gangs of hardened criminals.

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the best tracking system

the best tracking system doesn't do you any good when the continuously deliver the package to the wrong house, have that problem with amazon, fedex, ups, and usps

Check/verify your location

blake7mstr wrote:

the best tracking system doesn't do you any good when the continuously deliver the package to the wrong house, have that problem with amazon, fedex, ups, and usps

You might want to go into Google maps and verify that your address correlates with your physical location. For many years I had a similar problem and packages were delivered two homes down on the same side of the street. One day I had a discussion with the UPS driver, and he showed me his navigation device, which showed the incorrect physical location. I postyed a correction on some Google Map site and it was corrected although it took several months as I recall.

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Competitors?

muell9k wrote:
soberbyker wrote:
bdhsfz6 wrote:

Here is something new. I placed a food order through Amazon Pantry yesterday and it was on my doorstep when I woke up this morning! It wasn't there when I went to bed at 10PM which means it was delivered sometime overnight!

Anyone else have this experience?

Yes, it's relatively new but there are some Prime items that are marked something like get it before 8am if ordered by ....

I used it recently to get something I actually needed the next morning.

I think Amazon (Jeff Bezos richest man in the world) perhaps he has sights as a thorn in side to competitors like UPS & FedEX.

Not sure UPS & FedEX are really competitors, they don't sell the goods they deliver, I just think Amazon is cutting out the middleman using their own trucks.

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interesting

the high dollar amount stuff, although tossed on the steps like a $5 item, were on time and collected fine.

the last 2 orders, $30 and $15, lost lol

Another interesting thing, the $600 BP machine, it will say in stock Dec. 3, then suddenly 2 in stock, then 17, then out....I wonder if that's real or an algorithm to get people to buy.

For example, I got this polyurethane to seal a basement foundation crack (it worked for $114!), and it started at 20, ocunted down to 0, and was 0 for a few days. This was a 3rd party sale, but amazon items also have a countdown.

Again, I think we all feel if we truly don't get something from amazon, it will be made right. But over the last decade, I would say they went from a 100% delivery rate, to about 80%. There's like a 1/5 chance stuff won't reach us....

Winter Weather...

will soon be on us here in the northeastern US. Slippery roads always impact delivery schedules. The roads in my rural area are particularly difficult in Winter and affect all the carriers.

Since I'm retired and home most of the time during bad weather, one of the things I've done to minimize missed or delayed deliveries is to give my cell phone# to all the regular drivers. They call when there is delivery difficulty and I arrange to meet them somewhere. I'll do this for a couple of my elderly neighbors as well.

Sometimes, my red pickup looks like Santa's sleigh loaded with goodies mrgreen

neighborhood problem

blake7mstr wrote:

the best tracking system doesn't do you any good when the continuously deliver the package to the wrong house

My neighborhood has a rather special problem regarding the way street addresses are assigned. Addresses don't obey consistently the usual rule of odd actresses being on one side and even addresses on the other. More rarely, but enough to be a problem, they are not even in numerical order.

Fortunately both UPS and FedEx seem to assign the same driver to come here repeatedly most of the time. They either figure out how to handle the neighborhood (big clue, always look see that you can actually find the specific number on the mailbox or the house before you make the delivery) or they get reassigned.

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numbers

archae86 wrote:

My neighborhood has a rather special problem regarding the way street addresses are assigned. Addresses don't obey consistently the usual rule of odd actresses being on one side and even addresses on the other. More rarely, but enough to be a problem, they are not even in numerical order.
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I ran into something similar once while making a delivery. A dead end street with a cul-de-sac, as you enter the street the first house on the left is number one, the next house on the left number two, then three, etc etc etc. So the house at the beginning of the street across from number one on the right side was number 30.

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how

about houses where the residents don't regularly use the front door, they drive into the garage and enter the house namely....

My mom has gotten holiday presents, only to discover them a week or more later, spoiled!

Another amazon pattern, seems often stuff that had a discount got lost. I ordered something $49.99 with $20 off--it's lost, and right away amazon says I can cancel--not replace. the price is now $49.99 again. fishy! (context--3rd party sale, if amazon, they would send another)

neighbor's front door

johnnatash4 wrote:

about houses where the residents don't regularly use the front door, they drive into the garage and enter the house namely....

For an extra twist on the case you pose, my problem has been that the confused FedEx driver who could not figure out that in my neighborhood you actually need to see the number on the house or mailbox habitually put MY box at the unused front door of the neighbor across the street. The first time it happened said neighbor noticed the box after several weeks and brought it to me. I've subsequently learned that if the carrier declares they have delivered a box and it is not at my home, the first thing to do is to look by the front door of said neighbor. Five successes so far.

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so much worse today

archae86 wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:

about houses where the residents don't regularly use the front door, they drive into the garage and enter the house namely....

For an extra twist on the case you pose, my problem has been that the confused FedEx driver who could not figure out that in my neighborhood you actually need to see the number on the house or mailbox habitually put MY box at the unused front door of the neighbor across the street. The first time it happened said neighbor noticed the box after several weeks and brought it to me. I've subsequently learned that if the carrier declares they have delivered a box and it is not at my home, the first thing to do is to look by the front door of said neighbor. Five successes so far.

Really the amount of high dollar stuff lost at work is unprecedented, I do think COVID is a factor, especially since no signatures...

I just cracked myself up...."Hi mom, just checking, did you happen to get the Alaskan king crab that I ordered for you, it was a special 20 lbs for the price of 19, just wondering if you liked it...what's that, when did I order it, oh, I think maybe 3 weeks ago..."

... the only thing left is an Amazon airplane.

soberbyker wrote:

First actual Amazon marked trucks I saw were vans like those Sprinter vans here in the Philadelphia area, they are a grayish color with the Amazon 'smile', they were using plain white vans prior.

A few weeks ago I started seeing marked trucks like UPS uses, but in the same colors as the vans. It seems that Amazon has completely put their business in their own hands. UPS must not like that.

Well, Amazon is completing the whole shipping within, the only thing left is an Amazon airplane.

I have seen many Amazon trailers, but with someone else's tractor pulling it. Today I saw an entire tractor trailer painted in Amazon's colors.

Pictures aren't that great but take a look:

https://i.postimg.cc/Hxpdy9zq/127856740-956102954927555-5521...

https://i.postimg.cc/Bbz0R933/127796839-686523425382188-4585...

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been running them for years

soberbyker wrote:

Well, Amazon is completing the whole shipping within, the only thing left is an Amazon airplane.

Amazon currently operates a fleet of dozens of air freighters. If you see one it will have the name "Prime Air" painted on it. These go back about five years.

I believe most of the current fleet is made up of 767 and 737 types.

I believe they contract with one or more existing operators to actually fly the aircraft. The initial one was Air Transport International, and the first hub location was KCVG near Cincinnati.

In looking up references for this note I see they have adopted the business name Amazon Air to replace the Prime Air name. I'm not sure whether they have new livery for the actual airplanes yet. I've found lots of pictures of freighters decked out in a couple of versions of Prime Air livery, so I think that is what you would be most likely to see.

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