For those of you using older computers...... Please Read!

 

Couple days ago I powered up my Video Editing system (2007 vintage Supermicro Server that is OLD, EOL, but still does the heavy lifting of SD/HD Video Editing and DVD/BR Authoring here)......

And when I powered it up this time.... Bios Reset itself, scrambling Drives, wouldn't get past Bios to Boot, Date, Time, Etc. Etc. Etc...

Battery Backup had failed....

Short Story.... I had documented the Bios Settings in my motherboard manual (How many of you have this???)

I contacted Motherboard support for Battery type (I knew where it was from manual, but manual didn't indicate what battery was needed..)....

Had to pull out a two slot wide Display card to get to Bios Battery on motherboard.....

Replaced Bios Battery today.... and reset all custom Bios Settings.....
New Battery (CR2032) measures 3.35V Old Battery measures .09V..

Shut it down, and 4 hours later powered it up.... It Held...
YIPPEE!!!

Got 12 years out of old battery.... Start the 12 Year Timer Again!!!! smile!

--
A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

yeah

Been there, done that.

Sometimes the battery is a LOT of trouble to get at. Especially if the machine is newer and more compact. My 12 year old HP tower with 3 hard drives and 2 DVD/CD drives has clear access to most of the MB. My wife's HP Slimline is almost impossible to get at the MB without removing a lot of stuff. Major disassembly just to replace HD.

The battery was never supposed to be replaced - the machine was supposed to die long before the battery. But I don't dump PCs just because they are old either. If they serve a purpose offline I keep them running. Don't need to update the OS at EOL either. I suspect my 12 year old W7 machine will last another 5+ years after I take it offline.

--
I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.

!

smile!

--
A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Still run old machines.

I have a old PC (IBM) that I still use running DOS on it for some of the software that I still use!

--
Bobkz - Garmin Nuvi 3597LMTHD/2455LMT/C530/C580- "Pain Is Fear Leaving The Body - Semper Fidelis"

My first pc

bobkz wrote:

I have a old PC (IBM) that I still use running DOS on it for some of the software that I still use!

I'm retired from IBM and bought my first pc (IBM, of course) in 1982. The employee purchase price was, if memory serves, $2400. Man, it was fun. I wrote a bunch of useful programs in BASIC. Talk about memories.

Phil

--
Phil in Mentor, Ohio -- Garmin Nuvi 1450

JanJ wrote:Got 12 years out

JanJ wrote:

Got 12 years out of old battery.... Start the 12 Year Timer Again!!!! smile!

Three month ago I junked a 13 year old computer. The battery was still good, but other components were in the process of failing. Bought a new replacement computer.

Great news that the battery held out for so long.

--
Garmin Nuvi650 - Morehead City, NC

Keep 'rm runnin' like a top,

Keep 'rm runnin' like a top, geaux computon' taters!

old

I built my own computers and added on more memory and newer graphics cards their 11 and 9 years old when the cmos battery starts going out it usually starts losing the date then what drives to boot off I made sure I left the battery open so I could get at it easily so far only had to replace one of them.

Unfortunately, we live in a disposable society

with products designed to fail just out of warranty ... planned obsolescence. I still own a couple of Palms and a Psion 3mx ... I dont use them that often any more though.

The battery in a laptop is

The battery in a laptop is backup. That is, it supplies the CMOS if the main battery is dead or removed. So, in most situations it is the shelf life of the CR2032 that determines when it will die.

what is interesting

Is the "standard" corporate laptop that gets given to like 10,000 employees, today in 2019, is as good as my personal ThinkPad core i7 T450s that I bought myself and still use, from 2015. That I do consider progress. No more of this your laptop is your status monkey business lol

And, not to mention any names, the new ones start with the letter after C, and have 4 letters ending in LL.

The old ones were utter junk, and had two letters, first one after G, and last one after O. Constant problems. Expensive. Bad support.

p.s. the standard corporate laptop which is the equivalent of an ultra book barely costs $1000 today. I am not trying to be funny, it is value and helps employees to be more productive.

You could say the same

about cars. Something 10-15 years old is now well behind the times though it still gets you from A to B, just less bells and whistles

--
Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, SmartDrive 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

food for thought

Melaqueman wrote:

about cars. Something 10-15 years old is now well behind the times though it still gets you from A to B, just less bells and whistles

I drive a used Lexus, 2006. It was mfg 9/05 so over 14. There are cars on the internet that have as high as 1 mil. miles, I first found one online that had 986k. Mine has about 130k and people say reaching 300k is like shooting fish in a barrel. Everytime I rent a car for work I realize wow is my stuff outdated. I tell my buddy and he says I'd rather be outdated than have a car payment.

So I look at my 2019 work computer, and my 2015 personal computer, and say, why would I personally buy a 2019 computer? What is it that my 2015 ThinkPad cannot do? It's core i7 and 1920xblahblahblah....

p.s. the original owner of my car has "home" labeled in the gps and his house is over 5 mil. lol I guess after owning it 8 years it was time for him to move on. But he did have it 8 years, not 36 mos....

Just pull it and look...

Easiest to just pull the battery and look. Most old CMOS batteries are the same. You will need to pull it to replace it anyway so just pull it to begin with and then you can see what battery to buy.

--
GPSMAP 76CSx - nüvi 760 - nüvi 200 - GPSMAP 78S

Most of them are cr2032's

thrak wrote:

Easiest to just pull the battery and look. Most old CMOS batteries are the same. You will need to pull it to replace it anyway so just pull it to begin with and then you can see what battery to buy.

--
Nuvi 2460LMT.

Yeah the good ol' desktop.

Yeah the good ol' desktop. Try replacing it in one of the newer laptops with plastic clips and no screws. SUCKS.

I had to use DOS to run a

I had to use DOS to run a calibration Program for a Tektronix waveform monitor....via an RS232 port. Took a bit of doing, but I found a disc image of DOS that would run off a Burned CD.
All I had to do was make DVD drive the first option in BIOS boot order... which I left after changing as it only delayed boot for a second or two....
Fortunately the computer only had system driver updates via floppy disk, and Floppy gave me I/O and storage for the calibration program...
Probably will be the last time I use DOS... but once configured it was relatively painless... Relatively....

--
A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Perhaps some alternatives....

JanJ wrote:

I had to use DOS to run a calibration Program for a Tektronix waveform monitor....via an RS232 port. Took a bit of doing, but I found a disc image of DOS that would run off a Burned CD.
All I had to do was make DVD drive the first option in BIOS boot order... which I left after changing as it only delayed boot for a second or two....
Fortunately the computer only had system driver updates via floppy disk, and Floppy gave me I/O and storage for the calibration program...
Probably will be the last time I use DOS... but once configured it was relatively painless... Relatively....

Most DOS commands are still available within Windows so I'm a bit surprised you needed to go to the steps you did. There is also a utility (free) called DOSBOX that might have worked. See https://www.windowscentral.com/dosbox-windows-10

--
John from PA

Good suggestion thanks

Good suggestion thanks

vDOS

On a few occasions I have needed to run an old DOS 8 bit program that won't run on Win 10. I found a DOS emulator called vDOS that seems to work pretty good.

--
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon