What am I looking at?

 

After reading about the Russian plane that crashed in Egypt while on its way to St. Petersburg, Russia, I used Google Earth to look at the St. Petersburg airport. What am I seeing?

59.800437,30.265934

Phil

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Phil in Mentor, Ohio -- Garmin Nuvi 1450

I see an airplane ...

...on top of another airplane. Those crazy Russians! Or maybe Google got some images superimposed?

Looks like ...

... an airplane with it's shadow ...

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Just weird

Yeah, I don't think it's a shadow. Sure looks like two different airplanes on top of each other, if you zoom in. I don't know why. It's a weird one all right.

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JMoo On

Just weird

Yeah, I don't think it's a shadow. Sure looks like two different, stacked airplanes, if you zoom in. I don't know why. It's a weird one all right.

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What Am I Looking At

Sure does look like one on top of the other...... Probably just another Google Earth anomaly.

Making baby airplanes?

Making baby airplanes?

Looks normal

Looks normal to me. Drive-up exit ramps. And shuttle busses nearby.

See if you can find a "Jet-way". You know, taxi up to the terminal and a covered movable walkway moves right up the exit hatch. I guess we Capitalists are "Spoiled" here in the USA!

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How about this one

This is Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport.

59.800437,30.265934

To me, it's quite clear it's

To me, it's quite clear it's a shadow. Photo taken just before LAN. Local Apparent Noon.

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Frank Nuvi 3597LMT 37.322760, -79.511267

I don't think so

phranc wrote:

To me, it's quite clear it's a shadow. Photo taken just before LAN. Local Apparent Noon.

The "shadow" plane has some kind of service vehicle on the starboard side just behind the cockpit. That plane's shadow also shows the service vehicle, which the second plane obviously doesn't have.

And then, if you look at the planes using the street level view, you get a completely different perspective. That view is actually pretty cool.

Phil

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Phil in Mentor, Ohio -- Garmin Nuvi 1450

It's no shadow

phranc wrote:

To me, it's quite clear it's a shadow. Photo taken just before LAN. Local Apparent Noon.

What I see is two completely different airplanes. The top one is a three engine aircraft, such as the tu-154, while the bottom aircraft has engines on each wing, like an Airbus.

Yep

oldpal wrote:

What I see is two completely different airplanes. The top one is a three engine aircraft, such as the tu-154, while the bottom aircraft has engines on each wing, like an Airbus.

And if you look at the scene using Google Earth's street level view, you'll see that the upper plane is parked and there are steps in place leading up to the cabin. Looks like an overlay issue to me.

Phil

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Phil in Mentor, Ohio -- Garmin Nuvi 1450

Different Images?

Could it be we are not all seeing the same image for some reason? When I view the coordinates in Google Earth V 7.1.5.1557 and Google Earth pro V 7.1.2.2041, using an image date of 6/21/13, I see only a plane and the shadow it cast. 3 other planes on the tarmac show the exact same shadow effect. I'm not seeing what others have reported.

The same shadow effect can be seen on other planes at or near that location by using the time slider to view earlier image dates.

Interesting.

That's exactly what I see.

That's exactly what I see. The OP needs to go back to the map he saw and post a link to it.

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Frank Nuvi 3597LMT 37.322760, -79.511267

The sun is low on the left side

The sun is low on the left side and that puts a shadow on the right side of the plane and on the ground. It looks like the stairs are down and the luggage racks are there and the food service truck.

Nothing out of the ordinary to me.

But then I am a girl and blond. grin

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The view I see is taken late

The view I see is taken late morning, and the shadow is very close to the plane.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/59°48'01.6%22N+30°15'57.4%22E/@59.8004397,30.2637453,414m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0

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Frank Nuvi 3597LMT 37.322760, -79.511267

Waddya mean, post a link to it?

phranc wrote:

That's exactly what I see. The OP needs to go back to the map he saw and post a link to it.

This is the downloaded version of Google Earth, v7.1.5.1557. On the screen that shows the St. Petersburgh airport, the only identifiable information is this:

Image (copyright)2015 CNES/Astrium
(copyright) Google
Imagery date 6/21/2013

Phil

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Phil in Mentor, Ohio -- Garmin Nuvi 1450

I see what you're talking about

phranc wrote:

The view I see is taken late morning, and the shadow is very close to the plane.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/59°48'01.6%22N+30°15'57.4%22E/@59.8004397,30.2637453,414m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0

The pic on the downloaded GE has EXACTLY the same image as your link, EXCEPT that there is another plane superimposed on top of the bottom-most one.

Phil

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Phil in Mentor, Ohio -- Garmin Nuvi 1450

Nope

plunder wrote:
phranc wrote:

The view I see is taken late morning, and the shadow is very close to the plane.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/59°48'01.6%22N+30°15'57.4%22E/@59.8004397,30.2637453,414m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0

The pic on the downloaded GE has EXACTLY the same image as your link, EXCEPT that there is another plane superimposed on top of the bottom-most one.

Phil

Just downloaded GE. I looked at GE on IOS and GE on my MAC laptop, and Google map and there is no plane superimposed or anything else there.

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Frank Nuvi 3597LMT 37.322760, -79.511267

visibility

on google maps, hit the time slider, all kinds of wiererrrrrrd appears

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If only ..

Did you zoom in?

bdhsfz6 wrote:

Could it be we are not all seeing the same image for some reason? When I view the coordinates in Google Earth V 7.1.5.1557 and Google Earth pro V 7.1.2.2041, using an image date of 6/21/13, I see only a plane and the shadow it cast. 3 other planes on the tarmac show the exact same shadow effect. I'm not seeing what others have reported.

The same shadow effect can be seen on other planes at or near that location by using the time slider to view earlier image dates.

Interesting.

Trying to track down the discrepancy for those seeing a plane and a shadow versus those seeing two planes... (I'm seeing two planes.) I'm using the same version of Google Earth Pro, 7.1.2.2041, and the same image date, 6/21/13, as you. One thing you didn't mention: I'm zoomed in 50%. Are you? Because the second plane arguably could be a shadow at 0% zoom but not at 50% zoom.

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Use street view

dagarmin wrote:

One thing you didn't mention: I'm zoomed in 50%. Are you? Because the second plane arguably could be a shadow at 0% zoom but not at 50% zoom.

The "bottom" plane isn't a shadow of the "top" plane. If you use street view you'll plainly see the top plane is not in the air at all - it's actually parked. You can see the passenger steps leading up to the cabin.

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Images

I wish this forum would allow posting of images. Screen shots would really be helpful here, I clearly see shadows and find it hard to believe anyone else sees something different.

Heres What I See

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3D Buildings

dagarmin wrote:
bdhsfz6 wrote:

Could it be we are not all seeing the same image for some reason? When I view the coordinates in Google Earth V 7.1.5.1557 and Google Earth pro V 7.1.2.2041, using an image date of 6/21/13, I see only a plane and the shadow it cast. 3 other planes on the tarmac show the exact same shadow effect. I'm not seeing what others have reported.

The same shadow effect can be seen on other planes at or near that location by using the time slider to view earlier image dates.

Interesting.

Trying to track down the discrepancy for those seeing a plane and a shadow versus those seeing two planes... (I'm seeing two planes.) I'm using the same version of Google Earth Pro, 7.1.2.2041, and the same image date, 6/21/13, as you. One thing you didn't mention: I'm zoomed in 50%. Are you? Because the second plane arguably could be a shadow at 0% zoom but not at 50% zoom.

The image is the same regardless of the zoom level.

I think the discrepancy is due to the photorealistic option under 3D Buildings. When I check the option box, I see the second plane. Uncheck it and the second plane disappears.

it isn't a shadow, but the

it isn't a shadow, but the conveyor belts that are attached in for baggage and such to the plane.

Looks

like a Russian double decker plane. Interesting.

3D Buildings

The "top plane" isn't an image. It's a "3D Building" drawing. It was probably supposed to be linked to the image dated 7/15/09, when there was a control tower (or some kind of tower) at 59.79970,30.26493

Turn off the 3D Building layer and the top plane and tower go away.

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i agree

phranc wrote:

To me, it's quite clear it's a shadow. Photo taken just before LAN. Local Apparent Noon.

looks like shadow

Odd

Hmm. It's a conspiracy.

Is this what your seeing?

Google Earth Pro
7.1.2.2041
or
an older version, I get the bottom plane 2D (like the rest in line) and the top one 3D. Turn off 3D and one 2D plane with a shadow.

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