GPS Hacking Concerns U.S. Navy Enough To Resume Teaching Celestial Nav

 

Following a 10 year hiatus, report says U.S Naval Academy again teaching how to navigate by the stars.

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/10/22/us-navy-renews-t...

Wow

Interesting article and reasoning. Thanks.

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E-Loran Could be Part of the Solution

An interesting read. Thanks for posting.

This is another reason to continue research on E-Loran.

http://www.insidegnss.com/node/4431

Old School

Back to the astrolabes and sextants...hehehe

seems like it's better to be safe than sorry.

Redundancy is always a good idea.

The old saw is right

Putting all your eggs in one basket does make carrying them to the house easier....until you drop the basket. Then you end up with NO eggs and no way home.

Wasn't Aware Loran Was Still Around . . .

. . . So your link (an interesting read, too) had me recalling my career back in the mid 70's when I was navigating seismic and other oil field related vessels, mostly around the northern and western Gulf of Mexico. The company had a couple of proprietary systems we used for positioning which preceded Loran (which itself was superseded by Loran-C). By then I had moved on to other legs of my career path and I lost track of positioning technologies until I needed a GPSR, back around 2005.

bdhsfz6 wrote:

An interesting read. Thanks for posting.

This is another reason to continue research on E-Loran.

http://www.insidegnss.com/node/4431

Backups are good...

And I admit to having a fondness for celestial navigation -- I met the beauty who became my wonderful wife in a celestial navigation class at UCSB 35 years ago. Got more out of that class than learning how to use a sextant!

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Nuvi 2460, 680, DATUM Tymserve 2100, Trimble Thunderbolt, Ham radio, Macintosh, Linux, Windows

A Little Rusty

I may have to dust off some skills I haven't used in a long time.

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Shooter N32 39 W97 25 VIA 1535TM, Lexus built-in, TomTom Go

Why did they stop?

As a retired Navy vet, they should have never stopped. Maybe the Academy stopped teaching it, but I believe that the enlisted quartermasters never stopped practicing shooting the stars.

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

we, I hope we..

I hope we learn from the navy and teach our kids how to add and subtract again, with support from devices.

Successful GPS Spoofing Experiment

Since it was one perhaps easily overlooked among several links in the article I cited in my OP, I thought I'd reference it specifically here.

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/07/31/80-million-yacht...

Back on land.....

Good thing I still have a compass and paper maps to find the general area, if GPS goes nuts.

I suppose we would see a lot of lost souls driving around in circles looking for addresses.

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I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.

basics

I'm obviously naive. I just cannot fathom (get it?) how a professional mariner does not know celestial navigation. It is beyond belief that the USNavy somehow dropped this from the curriculum that produces our commanders and admirals of the future.

Next thing you know tying a bowline or splicing a line will be beyond the abilities of the men and women of the Navy.

I've been out 40 years and I

I've been out 40 years and I can still splice the mainbrace.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

Yea but...

Can you still make a 'monkey's fist'? wink

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nüvi 3790T | nüvi 775T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

USN

Not surprised. USN showing good sense to not forget such basic skills.

I Agree!

allbizz wrote:

I hope we learn from the navy and teach our kids how to add and subtract again, with support from devices.

How about the fact that some schools are no longer teaching cursive writing. It's sad to think we are raising children who won't be able to read the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights.

FTM

Juggernaut wrote:

Can you still make a 'monkey's fist'? wink

I have to sit down and review the directions. I was a Fire Control Tech.

(Yes, I know that was a facetious reply.)

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

Resume???

Resume??? They should NEVER have STOPPED teaching it!