U.S. National Grid Emergency Location Markers (ELMs)

 

I took one of my horses for a ride last night in the county park equestrian trails and I noticed new Emergency Location Markers. I have no experience with the United States National Grid format. I am sort of curious why they went with that format rather than another. I am sure I will find the answer when I have more time to review the websites on this topic. In the end, it won't matter because that is what they are using and I simply have to use that format for it to be of use to me. Still, it is ironic to me because my local county property records uses a different format and when local 911 PSAP dispatchers get cell phone coordinates they have it in yet a another format.

Also, for whatever this is worth, my Garmin Viago app only has about three formats to choose from. My Garmin Nuvi 3597 has many more formats to choose from.

http://gis.co.dakota.mn.us/content/dakco/usng/mapdocuments/S...

http://usngcenter.org/portfolio-item/apps/

http://www.usngapp.org/

USNG Vs WGS84

Basic background information on the USNG system is available here:

http://usngcenter.org/elm-background/

The main reason for using USNG is that the markers (ELMs) and the format are easily read in a panic situation and the information can be conveniently and accurately transmitted via voice or text.

The current WGS84 standard, commonly used in many navigation devices, can be confusing especially to those who are not familiar with latitude and longitude.

The readouts on some devices (GPS, smartphone, etc.) display longitude then latitude instead of latitude and longitude. Which number is which? It often isn’t clear. Some units omit the third digit necessary for accurate longitude as in 75 degrees rather than the correct 075 degrees. Some use polarity symbols as well.

There is no standard latitude / longitude readout format on navigation devices which often causes confusion when reporting field coordinates during stressful situations. Responders often have to convert the reported information to another format (usually USNG) which takes precious time and may cause transcription errors.

The US military developed the Military Grid Reference System (MGRS) during WWII for many of the above reasons. The USNG system is based on the MGRS.

Luckily, most navigation devices will read out in many different formats and there are a host of smartphone apps available that will quickly convert between formats.

075 is the SAME as 75

bdhsfz6 wrote:

Some units omit the third digit necessary for accurate longitude as in 75 degrees rather than the correct 075 degrees.

There is absolutely NO difference numerically, geographically, or in accuracy between the numbers "75" and "075". Leading zeros are dropped by any computer code which would process the coordinates. Leading zeros (as opposed to trailing zeros: 75.0 is NOT the same as 75) add nothing to the accuracy of a number.

Correct

RebHawk wrote:
bdhsfz6 wrote:

Some units omit the third digit necessary for accurate longitude as in 75 degrees rather than the correct 075 degrees.

There is absolutely NO difference numerically, geographically, or in accuracy between the numbers "75" and "075". Leading zeros are dropped by any computer code which would process the coordinates. Leading zeros (as opposed to trailing zeros: 75.0 is NOT the same as 75) add nothing to the accuracy of a number.

I did not say there was a difference in accuracy between 75 and 075. Depending on the unit or system, the 3rd digit is often required when entering correct longitude

My point was that it just adds to the confusion for someone who isn't familiar with the WGS coordinate system when relating the coordinates to an emergency responder.

Umm, Yep, You Did

bdhsfz6 wrote:

I did not say there was a difference in accuracy between 75 and 075.

"Some units omit the third digit necessary for accurate longitude as in 75 degrees rather than the correct 075 degrees."

Ummmm, yeah, you did. In so many words.

Perhaps..

RebHawk wrote:
bdhsfz6 wrote:

I did not say there was a difference in accuracy between 75 and 075.

"Some units omit the third digit necessary for accurate longitude as in 75 degrees rather than the correct 075 degrees."

Ummmm, yeah, you did. In so many words.

I could have constructed the sentence differently. I was referring to the INPUT accuracy, not the position accuracy.

Sorry for the confusion.