Nuvi 2597

 

Can any one tell me why my new, (refurbished), 2597 does not zoom in and out at 58 and 45 mph? All three of my previous units did. I've done a reset and it still doesn't zoom automatically.

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

Say again

phranc wrote:

Can any one tell me why my new, (refurbished), 2597 does not zoom in and out at 58 and 45 mph? All three of my previous units did. I've done a reset and it still doesn't zoom automatically.

Not zoom at 58 and 45 MPH?

Does it zoom at 59,57, 46, and 44 MPH?

I'm confused?

Normal

Normal operation is to zoom out when speed passes 58 as you accelerate. Once you start slowing down at 45mph it will zoom back in. Mine doesn't automatically zoom at any speed.

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

Delete

Deleted.

No setting to enable or disable on 2597.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

No

Nope.

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

3597

I have the model up from that, the 3597, and I think it works like yours - no zoom. It seems to zoom out when I start and stay that way. Even when I manually zoom in it will immediately want to zoom back out again.

mine doesn't

My 2597 doesn't zoom at any speed, I think it's annoying. I have kept all of my previous Street Pilots and Nuvis that had the zoom feature locked at 800 feet.

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Zoom

This is the only thing that Garmin support shows.

Many of Garmin's automotive devices will automatically adjust the zoom level. Some devices allow you to enable or disable this feature. The models that allow for this are as follows:

dezl series1
nuvi 55/561
nuvi 65/661
Camper 7601
LIVE 16951
LIVE 2300 series1
nuvi 2200 series1
nuvi 2300 series1
nuvi 2400 series1
nuvi 2407 series1
nuvi 2408 series 1
nuvi 2405 series1
nuvi 2505 series1
nuvi 2507 series1
nuvi 2508 series 1
nuvi 2707 series1
nuvi 2708 series 1
nuvi 3400 series1
nuvi 3500 series1
nuvi 3507 series1
nuvi 3508 series 1
nuvi 3700 series1
nuvi 50002 2
RV 7601 1
zumo 2202 2
zumo 3502 2
zumo 3902 2
zumo 6602 2
zumo 6652 2
1European versions only. On these models, and those whose Auto Zoom cannot be disabled, the device zooms in when approaching a turn.

2North American versions only. On these models, the Auto Zoom feature adjusts the zoom level based on speed and road type.

To enable or disable Auto Zoom on the LIVE 1695, LIVE 2300 series, nuvi 2200, 2300, 2400, 3700 series and the dezl 560:

Touch Tools
Touch Settings
Touch Navigation
Touch Car
Touch Auto Zoom
Touch the desired setting
Touch Save to save the change
Repeat the above steps as desired.

To enable or disable Auto Zoom on the nuvi 55, 56, 65, 66, 2405, 2407, 2408, 2505, 2507, 2508, 2707, 2708, 3400, 3500, 3507, 3508 series device, zumo 350, zumo 390, RV 760, Camper 760, and the dezl 760:

Touch Settings
Touch Map and Vehicle
Touch Auto Zoom to check (enable) or uncheck (disable) it
Repeat the above steps as desired.

To enable or disable Auto Zoom on the nuvi 5000, zumo 220, zumo 660 and zumo 665:

Touch Tools
Touch Settings
Touch Map
Touch the button next to Auto Zoom
Touch Off or On
Touch OK to save the change
Touch and hold Back to return to the main menu
Repeat the above steps as desired.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

I Saw That

I saw that while I was on the phone with Garmin Support. The result was that it was supposed to work like that, but there are no controls to turn it on or off. I'm going to give it a couple more days and then I may return it.

What I'd like to ask for is if there are any 2597 users out there that the auto zoom is working like it should? If so, could you please chip in here. According to that list above it should auto zoom. Is your's working properly?

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

No Autozoom Enable\Diasble on a 2460

charlesd45 wrote:

This is the only thing that Garmin support shows.

Many of Garmin's automotive devices will automatically adjust the zoom level. Some devices allow you to enable or disable this feature. The models that allow for this are as follows:

2North American versions only. On these models, the Auto Zoom feature adjusts the zoom level based on speed and road type.

To enable or disable Auto Zoom on the LIVE 1695, LIVE 2300 series, nuvi 2200, 2300, 2400 , 3700 series and the dezl 560:

Touch Tools
Touch Settings
Touch Navigation
Touch Car
Touch Auto Zoom
Touch the desired setting
Touch Save to save the change

Garmin needs to update their information. On my 2460LMT there is no “Car” selection, only Automobile.
Within Automobile, there is no option to enable or disable Auto Zoom.

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Nuvi 2460LMT 2 Units

That's correct.

Only the European models have an Option for Auto Zoom. If you have the US model there is no Option.

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

My 2597 Auto Zooms

I cannot say at what speed it auto zooms when not on a route. It definitely does on a route and appears to be constant as you approach your destination. There is no setting for auto zoom.

Thanks

Thanks

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

There

There can be an autozoom setting, although by default, autozoom should be on and working. To adjust autozoom you should see an entry for it under Settings - Map & Vehicle - downarrow - Autozoom.

If that option isn't available to you try to get to the autozoom off and on setting by:

- perform a hard reset of your Nuvi

- when the Nuvi reboots after the reset, select Australia, instead of United States or Canada, as the default "locale".

Once you have the Nuvi set up with this locale you should see the autozoom option under:

Settings - Map & Vehicle - downarrow - Auto Zoom.

Tap the check box to turn AutoZoom off or on, depending on which you prefer.

To North Americanize your Nuvi after the reset, you will need to make a few changes to the settings like change readouts from KM to miles but there are only a couple of changes and all are simple to make.

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If

If you have a US unit, it's not an option. I thought about setting it to Europe or whatever to set the option. I finally did that and the option was already checked. I'll have to take a run up the road in a little while t check if it made a difference.

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

Problem Solved

It's going back to Amazon.

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

Would you recommend this unit?

I am thinking about buying this garmin 2597lmt. Would you recommend it?

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I do not want any ticket

Refurbished

Mine was a refurbished unit, and in talks with Garmin Support, it was not functioning properly. Garmin would have issued an RMA, but they would have replaced it with another refurbished. I sent the item back to Amazon.

I have since purchased a new 2597 from Newegg for about the same price as the refurb from Amazon. It hasn't arrived yet.

So, I can't really make a recommendation at this time. You will have to read the reviews online and decide for yourself.

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

Phranc, You should have the

Phranc,

You should have the unit by now.
How does it work with the Zoom?
Does the unit work as it should with the autozoom?

If yes can you tell me if it also remembers the zoom level for low and high speed or does it always defaults to a predetermined level?

Random

Garmin has seemed to have broken the zoom at speed function. The zoom function seems to occur at random. Totally. One time it will zoom, and then it won't. It won't zoom at all on North Up. Only on 3d. I cannot figure out what the plan is.

It's functionally useless as an automatic feature.

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

On my unit

phranc wrote:

Garmin has seemed to have broken the zoom at speed function. The zoom function seems to occur at random. Totally. One time it will zoom, and then it won't. It won't zoom at all on North Up. Only on 3d. I cannot figure out what the plan is.

It's functionally useless as an automatic feature.

I have a 3760. It has three different zoom levels = Interstate (>=58mph), On-Ramp (speed doesn't matter on mine), and Regular (on another type of road...it will also zoom out to the 58mph level).
As you stated, this only works on 3d view of the map, and I can't enable/disable it. I'm surprised that some units don't do this.

On my unit

phranc wrote:

Garmin has seemed to have broken the zoom at speed function. The zoom function seems to occur at random. Totally. One time it will zoom, and then it won't. It won't zoom at all on North Up. Only on 3d. I cannot figure out what the plan is.

It's functionally useless as an automatic feature.

I have a 3760. It has three different zoom levels = Interstate (>=58mph), On-Ramp (speed doesn't matter on mine), and Regular (on another type of road...it will also zoom out to the 58mph level).
As you stated, this only works on 3d view of the map, and I can't enable/disable it. I'm actually surprised that some units don't do this.

My 2597 Auto Zooms

I checked my unit today. I was not traveling on a route. I turned the unit on and set the zoom to the level I wanted it. Then increased the speed to about 58 and it zoomed out. My speed was then decreased to about 45 and the 2597 zoomed in to the same level as I had set it previously.

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jjen wrote:

I checked my unit today. I was not traveling on a route. I turned the unit on and set the zoom to the level I wanted it. Then increased the speed to about 58 and it zoomed out. My speed was then decreased to about 45 and the 2597 zoomed in to the same level as I had set it previously.

Mine does that... sometimes. It seems to be just random as to whether it does or not. If and when it does zoom, if I go to one of the menus, like fuel economy, and go back, it has zoomed back in, despite not changing speeds. Slowing down and speeding back up has no effect. Effectively the zoom is broken, since it doesn''t predictably and reliably zoom in and out.

Also, it seems as though first level help has no clue. I had one tell me the zoom was affected by the road type. Bzzzzz! Wrong answer.

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267

my 3597 has the same erratic (zoom) behavior

phranc wrote:
jjen wrote:

I checked my unit today. I was not traveling on a route. I turned the unit on and set the zoom to the level I wanted it. Then increased the speed to about 58 and it zoomed out. My speed was then decreased to about 45 and the 2597 zoomed in to the same level as I had set it previously.

Mine does that... sometimes. It seems to be just random as to whether it does or not...

If it not on a route, the zooming behavior appears rather erratic as Phranc's. I have yet to discover any logic of its behavior.

On a route, it appears to zoom normally: zoom out at high speed, zoom in at low speed, zoom really when approaching inter sections or freeway entrances.

Final Observations

Here are my final observations. The 2597 Will only zoom in 3D if you have a route active.
The standard zoom is only from .2 miles to .8 miles. That's only one step. If you have added zoom levels, it will generally remember this an zoom that far.

North up starts at .2 miles and won't zoom unless there is an active route and you have zoomed it out further while going over 58MPH.

In either mode, if you go to a menu screen while the unit is zoomed out, it will cancel the zoom and return to the default screen size, which appears to be .8 miles. The only way to regain the zoom is to stop the route and slow below 45 MPH. Then you can restart the route and speed back up. Whether it zooms back out or not seems to be random. A force stop, ( press and hold the off button for 10 secs), seems to restart the zoom.

In my opinion, Garmin has seriously screwed the pooch with the firmware on the 2597. Just like Microsoft, Garmin can't seem to let well enough alone. New and improved is only in the eyes of the creator. Those of us who continue to buy the new products expect some sense of normalcy and familiarity with newer models.

I see no reason for a .2 mile range in 3d when traveling a 60+ MPH and a hundred miles or more before the next routing direction. Garmin, please return to the old zoom behavior. Although, I suspect that like other good features that have disappeared, Auto Zoom won't return.

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Frank DriveSmart66 37.322760, -79.511267