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blake7mstr wrote: something

blake7mstr wrote:

something to ponder if you go to New York City

http://tinyurl.com/9xfwdgw

Why would anyone want to (go to New York City)??

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Don't need to

I don't need to ponder it at all, I just try my best to stay out of that whole region!

However, the mayor does seem to see something that we don't normally see in this country, and that is the use of mass transit instead of one person per car. I've spent time in both Japan and Korea, and I LIKE mass transit. The problem is that mass transit in this country isn't developed enough to be reliable over more than a few paths.

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some people live there

some people live there

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KD5XB wrote:

I don't need to ponder it at all, I just try my best to stay out of that whole region!

However, the mayor does seem to see something that we don't normally see in this country, and that is the use of mass transit instead of one person per car. I've spent time in both Japan and Korea, and I LIKE mass transit. The problem is that mass transit in this country isn't developed enough to be reliable over more than a few paths.

That's the problem with mass transit in NYC, there just isn't enough of it to be useful for many. I can take the bus or train to get to work, but because the hours I work (graveyard shift), bus takes around 30m, and train, around 45m. That's not including walking time to and from the bus stop/train station, or the fact that there is reduced trains in the morning hours when I go home, sometimes 1h30m just to get home by train, and there is no bus what so ever. The NYCTA also wants to raise the fair yet again, AND wants to reduce even more the buses and trains.

Yet, I can hop in my car, and be at work no more then 20m later (or faster), from the front of my door, to being inside my work place.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for getting more cars off the road (all those who shouldn't be behind the wheel in the first place...), but as much mass transit we have here in NYC, it just isn't enough.

you mean like this?

KD5XB wrote:

However, the mayor does seem to see something that we don't normally see in this country, and that is the use of mass transit instead of one person per car. I've spent time in both Japan and Korea, and I LIKE mass transit. The problem is that mass transit in this country isn't developed enough to be reliable over more than a few paths.

You mean like this?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0A9-oUoMug&feature=fvwrel

(or look on http://www.youtube.com for "Japanese train station during rush hour").

Maybe I'm a antisocial type, but personally I would rather prefer my car.

And if mayor can see so much better than average city person than why he won't give up his car and use this excellent public transport. After all nothing speaks in favor of one's opinion than personal example. Or he is just too good to mix with common people?

Bloomberg

This is the same mayor a few years ago, when there was a transit strike, coming on TV and telling eveeybody to ride bikes to work. Then he shows (his) bike. What a joke, his bike cost about $4000.00.
Made of titanium and he didn't have to worry about anybody trying to steal it. He had his security with him at all times.
He has no idea what the regular people have to do.

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Pass

grzesja wrote:
KD5XB wrote:

However, the mayor does seem to see something that we don't normally see in this country, and that is the use of mass transit instead of one person per car. I've spent time in both Japan and Korea, and I LIKE mass transit. The problem is that mass transit in this country isn't developed enough to be reliable over more than a few paths.

You mean like this?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0A9-oUoMug&feature=fvwrel

(or look on http://www.youtube.com for "Japanese train station during rush hour").

Maybe I'm a antisocial type, but personally I would rather prefer my car.

And if mayor can see so much better than average city person than why he won't give up his car and use this excellent public transport. After all nothing speaks in favor of one's opinion than personal example. Or he is just too good to mix with common people?

No thanks

So, how's that mass transit

So, how's that mass transit in NYC looking today?

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Cute!

JD4x4 wrote:

So, how's that mass transit in NYC looking today?

You of course saw the flooded tunnels? LOL grin

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He, of course, knows what's

He, of course, knows what's best for the rest of us lowly commoners better than we do. rolleyes

I believe in personal choices, and I've made my choice to stay far away from the east coast.

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mrgreen

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That's why it's called Work.

Mpegger wrote:

That's the problem with mass transit in NYC, there just isn't enough of it to be useful for many. I can take the bus or train to get to work, but because the hours I work (graveyard shift), bus takes around 30m, and train, around 45m. That's not including walking time to and from the bus stop/train station, or the fact that there is reduced trains in the morning hours when I go home, sometimes 1h30m just to get home by train, and there is no bus what so ever. The NYCTA also wants to raise the fair yet again, AND wants to reduce even more the buses and trains.

And? For the Chicago suburbs, downtown parking is $245/month plus 90 miles/day fuel. I rode the train for 1:30 hrs each way for 10 years. I also had a 0.6 mile walk each way to the office. $192.25/month. Then there's the Chicago winter...

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Would you

ride the mass transit in NY if you worked the graveyard shift?

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I have

Don B wrote:

ride the mass transit in NY if you worked the graveyard shift?

It's much slower than the day. During normal times w/o a weather incident, the same trip that takes twenty minutes in the day hours can take as much as two hours at night due to a reduced service.

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Security

Preroll wrote:
Don B wrote:

ride the mass transit in NY if you worked the graveyard shift?

It's much slower than the day. During normal times w/o a weather incident, the same trip that takes twenty minutes in the day hours can take as much as two hours at night due to a reduced service.

But what about security? How safe is it?

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Bus Over Subway

Don B wrote:
Preroll wrote:
Don B wrote:

ride the mass transit in NY if you worked the graveyard shift?

It's much slower than the day. During normal times w/o a weather incident, the same trip that takes twenty minutes in the day hours can take as much as two hours at night due to a reduced service.

But what about security? How safe is it?

Better than the 70's and 80's! Bus is usually your better bet than the subway after 12.

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16oz at a time ???

gonna take forever to get rid of all that flood-water if they are limited to using bailout containers not to exceed 16 ounces ? ? ?

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Really...

Why would I want to be thirsty in that state, let alone commute?

Interesting, but no surprise.

While interesting, this should be no surprise to anybody.

Silly driver, why would you want to sit alone in a comfortable car when you could be squashed between a couple of overweight bus riders or working up a sweat on a bicycle?

(Full disclosure: although I am fortunate enough to not live in the NY area, I ride a bus to work due to the fact I am practically forced to do so by my employer. Either ride to work for free after employer subsidy on public transit or pay 80 a month in parking plus the cost of gas and wear and tear on car.)

typical Bloomberg

Considering that he thinks it is the job of government to tell us how to live our live in every aspect including the size of our soft drinks, this restriction on cars isn't a shock. But it is sad to see this impact people who bought small gas efficient two seat cars. A stretch limo with 3 people in it can drive into NYC, even if it is 3 or 4 times longer than a small car and gets less than ten miles per ga;;on, but a tiny two seater with two people in it is forbidden.

And the end result is likely to be that anyone burnt by this will be unlikely to buy a small efficient two seater again.