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Junction View

 

I have a 2595LMT and I notice while on a trip this week-end that the JV took up less than half the screen. I thought that it was suppose to be half the screen. Does anybody else have notice that.

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Junction View?!?!?! What's that? >>

I haven't seen more than 1 JV on my 1490 since a month or two after I bought it and did the update...biggest fraud ever perpetrated by Garmin IMHO!

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TMK wrote:

I haven't seen more than 1 JV on my 1490 since a month or two after I bought it and did the update...biggest fraud ever perpetrated by Garmin IMHO!

Works quite well on my 1490LMT - full screen JV.

I downloaded the BIG JV file and put it on my SD card along with the map file !

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it appears that it should be a little less than 1/2 the screen

rthibodaux wrote:

I have a 2595LMT and I notice while on a trip this week-end that the JV took up less than half the screen. I thought that it was suppose to be half the screen. Does anybody else have notice that.

That JV screen size is correct for your model.

As it is shown on page 28 of the owner's manual for the 2595LMT it appears that it should be a little less than 1/2 the screen:

http://static.garmincdn.com/pumac/nuvi_2405_2505_series_OM.p...

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works great

Came up as half screen on my 50lm and was spot on, love it.

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It depends where you are driving

TMK wrote:

I haven't seen more than 1 JV on my 1490 since a month or two after I bought it and did the update...biggest fraud ever perpetrated by Garmin IMHO!

It depends where you are driving. When going thru the LA area they were popping up one after another and saw dozens within a few minutes.

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2460 Junction views

My 2460 junction views seem to very a bit in size. So I'd say you don't have a problem.

I am absolutely amazed at the number of junction views .... many more being adding with each map update.

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Junction View

Is nice when you get them but if there too close together the can leave you on the far side of the interstate wanting to get to the other side where the exit is.

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No

rthibodaux wrote:

I have a 2595LMT and I notice while on a trip this week-end that the JV took up less than half the screen. I thought that it was suppose to be half the screen. Does anybody else have notice that.

No, all Nuvi models since the 3790, have had split screen views. The advantage of them is that they stay on the screen through the turn being shown in the view and you can still see the map while the view picture is being displayed. With full screen views it only appears for a few seconds prior to the turn being displayed and it covers the map completely.

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Well

redface

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Well

TMK wrote:

I haven't seen more than 1 JV on my 1490 since a month or two after I bought it and did the update...biggest fraud ever perpetrated by Garmin IMHO!

Well you could download the 700MB+ JV file that's been available for each of the last number of map updates. Sounds like your using the default file on your 1490. The downloadable file is over 10 times the size of the default with hundreds and hundreds of added views.

The 1490 gets the smaller file by default because of space limitation on the 2GB internal storage drive. A search of the forum will give you all the details about where to get the bigger file and how to store it on an SD card if needed.

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I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM

with the split screen. It is not a half screen view, it is lest than half. I just wanted to know if anyone else have notice that also. I have a 2595LMT.

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3790LMT; 2595LMT; 3590LMT

Per Garmin Website

rthibodaux wrote:

with the split screen. It is not a half screen view, it is lest than half. I just wanted to know if anyone else have notice that also. I have a 2595LMT.

Looking at the specs for the 2595, the graphic shows that the JCV is slightly less than 1/2 the screen.

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The

The split screen view pictures are the same size for both the 4.3" and 5" Nuvi screens. Therefore they appear to take up approximately half the screen on the smaller 4.3" models but much less than half a screen on the 5" devices. Since your 2595 has a 5" screen you'll notice the difference much more than I would with a 4.3" 3790 screen.

Does your screen look like this one that is displayed on the Garmin website?

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/alt-image.do?pID=97146&img=produ...

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JV

t923347 wrote:

The split screen view pictures are the same size for both the 4.3" and 5" Nuvi screens. Therefore they appear to take up approximately half the screen on the smaller 4.3" models but much less than half a screen on the 5" devices. Since your 2595 has a 5" screen you'll notice the difference much more than I would with a 4.3" 3790 screen.

Does your screen look like this one that is displayed on the Garmin website?

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/alt-image.do?pID=97146&img=productImageLarge

Thank You for the info.

That is one reason I went with the 5" screen to see larger JV. What a bummer.

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You can

You can always get the full screen views if you really want them. You'll need to download a new file with every map update and live with the limitations I noted in an earlier post but you don't have to use the split screen views if you don't want to.

The current JCV full screen file (map version 2012.40) can be downloaded from:

http://download.garmin.com/support/2012_40/NA/JV/D3060050A.J...

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After using the full JCV for the last two updates I decided on the next update go back and use the split screen.

The full screen is nice but I prefer the extra on screen time.

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JV

t923347 wrote:

You can always get the full screen views if you really want them. You'll need to download a new file with every map update and live with the limitations I noted in an earlier post but you don't have to use the split screen views if you don't want to.

The current JCV full screen file (map version 2012.40) can be downloaded from:

http://download.garmin.com/support/2012_40/NA/JV/D3060050A.J...

Is this just for the 2595LMT or will it work with the
3790LMT and the 855

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It

It will work with any Nuvi that supports Junction Views and has map version 2012.40 installed.

The one issue that you will have with some devices is that they don't have enough internal storage space to hold the large file. In those cases the file can be placed in folder called MAP on an SD card.

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Not quite that simple>>>

t923347 wrote:
TMK wrote:

I haven't seen more than 1 JV on my 1490 since a month or two after I bought it and did the update...biggest fraud ever perpetrated by Garmin IMHO!

Well you could download the 700MB+ JV file that's been available for each of the last number of map updates. Sounds like your using the default file on your 1490. The downloadable file is over 10 times the size of the default with hundreds and hundreds of added views.

The 1490 gets the smaller file by default because of space limitation on the 2GB internal storage drive. A search of the forum will give you all the details about where to get the bigger file and how to store it on an SD card if needed.

I can't use the big file because it only works with the 2012.20 update. I don't have the 2012.20 update because the POS 1490 has finally taught me to stop giving money to Garmin. I am actually just waiting for the 1490 to slip out of my hand someday and hopefully smash to pieces so I can be done with Garmin once and for all. See, I have a pet theory that says that any company that pulls the kind of crap Garmin pulls should not get any of my money. Selling a unit with an internal memory that will not be able to comfortably handle map updates and promised features (such as JCV) is chicanery if not outright fraud. Some people find that acceptable; good for them...me...I find it unforgiveable. If Garmin was smart (and they are not) they would recall all of these units and replace the memory with something capable of delivering what was promised...or just replace the units...

Tom Tom maps are better, directions are better and I've not had a problem with an update on the 340 or 540...yes, I am steamed...or, I guess re-steamed would be the better description.

JM2CYMMV

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You

You are of course entitled to your opinion.

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Heck TMK

Just throw your 1490 against the wall or into the river, or better yet, send it to me if that will give you satisfaction ! That way I'd have dueling 1490s and could have debates with Jack & Jill at the same time ! I' d even pay the shipping !

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micro SD

A $6 micro SD card will solve the memory issue and allow you to install the map and large JCV file. I agree that Garmin was short sighted in selling the 1xxx series with insufficient memory to support map updates. But at least that problem is easily resolved without a huge expense.

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JV

From what I have read the JV seems to be something that would definitely be an asset.
I better check it out on Garmin..
Thanks for heads up..

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In my younger days I might well have done that>>>

MrKenFL wrote:

Just throw your 1490 against the wall or into the river, or better yet, send it to me if that will give you satisfaction ! That way I'd have dueling 1490s and could have debates with Jack & Jill at the same time ! I' d even pay the shipping !

however, now the 12" rule applies...doing as you suggest is mighty satisfying and relieves a heck of alot of the tension associated with feeling ripped off...right up until the (item) is 12" from the wall and you realize...D@MN...I am going to have to pay for a replacement...much, if not all, of the satisfaction wanes...just sayin' wink

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Not sure

@ Ed Rozon

Not sure about your Zumo but there will be no JV's for your 660 as it isn't supported on those older models.

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There is no doubt a solution to most problems>>

alandb wrote:

A $6 micro SD card will solve the memory issue and allow you to install the map and large JCV file. I agree that Garmin was short sighted in selling the 1xxx series with insufficient memory to support map updates. But at least that problem is easily resolved without a huge expense.

and I understand that remedying the problem might be simple...that said, why should I have to remedy a design problem that was inherently incapable of allowing the product to perform as promised.

I owned a 1977 Harley FXE...great bikes and all but it was a leaker as were most of that era AMF bikes. The standard joke was to pull into a gas station and tell the attendant to fill the oil and check the gas. I suspect I could have found a way to fix the leaking...red gasket sealer, etc. but it was just so stupid that it was manufactured with the inherent problem that I ended up dumping it for a 1982 Suzuki GS1100E (granted a totally different bike and concept)...I still have the GS11 (30 years old this month) and in 2005 I bought a Roadstar Silverado after considering both the Heritage Softail and Roadking...that FXE so soured me on Harley that, in the end the Roadstar won out over the Harley.

If I make a mistake in my work...I FIX IT...and I don't charge to do it...I guess, philosophically, I expect the same.

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JV large file on my 1490t

I like it. So far it is displayed with every exit or interchange on our travels...This weekend we drove all over the Kansas City area. In the downtown area, the interchanges are like a bowl of spaghetti, with a left and then a quick right and then a left again. The JV could not keep up. A split screen like the 2595 would have been much better.
Although I did OK, the overhead signs do not always match what Jill in telling me. And I can't watch the screen and watch for merging traffic at the same time.

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I prefer the split screen as

I prefer the split screen as you still get to see your real-time position as you drive. It's possible that with full screen JV you miss your exit if the position/timing is off by just a few seconds. It would be even better if Garmin could overlay the image on the 3D map instead of doing a plain side-by-side.

Junction View right out of the box?

Are newer models able to display junction view right out of the box, or do you always have to download some sort of file to get it going?

I have a dinosaur Nuvi 205 that doesn't even even say the street names (just "turn right") so when we upgrade it would be nice to have junction view ready-to-go.

I have downloaded files and am not a complette Luddite, but the less I have to do, the better.

Thanks!

Looks like it.

ericruby wrote:

Are newer models able to display junction view right out of the box, or do you always have to download some sort of file to get it going?

If one looks at this page
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=401
There are 17 "new" models and all 17 have "displays junction signs" as a feature (click the "feature" arrow to open them up)

JV and nuvis

ericruby wrote:

Are newer models able to display junction view right out of the box, or do you always have to download some sort of file to get it going?

I have a dinosaur Nuvi 205 that doesn't even even say the street names (just "turn right") so when we upgrade it would be nice to have junction view ready-to-go.

I have downloaded files and am not a complette Luddite, but the less I have to do, the better.

Thanks!

The nuvi 205 does not support Junction View.

For those folks with nuvis that do support JV, each map and map update will include a jcv file with some junction views with no added input on the owner's part. But for many models, especially the older ones (like my 855), the file is small and the number and image quality of views is poor. For these folks, it is possible to manually download and install a much larger jcv file offering more junctions and better quality images.

I expect that for most or even all of the newer nuvi models, the jcv file supplied with map updates will be best and that a manual download of a bigger jcv file not needed.

That is correct

That is correct, the supplied JCV file will be the best file available on new models with larger internal storage space available. Also if you do use the downloadable file in place of the supplied one, you will lose the ability to display split screen views. All the views will take up the whole screen.

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Not my experience

TMK wrote:

Tom Tom maps are better, directions are better and I've not had a problem with an update on the 340 or 540...yes, I am steamed...or, I guess re-steamed would be the better description.

JM2CYMMV

I find that amusing as I got rid of my Tom Tom because of the inaccuracies in the maps. I found several places, especially in rural areas, where highways had existed for years and were still not in the Tom Tom maps. I have a 1450 and just bought a micro SD card and have lots and lots of junction views. No big deal.

Where to install ... ?

t923347 wrote:

You can always get the full screen views if you really want them. You'll need to download a new file with every map update and live with the limitations I noted in an earlier post but you don't have to use the split screen views if you don't want to.

The current JCV full screen file (map version 2012.40) can be downloaded from:

http://download.garmin.com/support/2012_40/NA/JV/D3060050A.J...

I downloaded the file and located it to the memory card on my 2455 with map 2012.40. However, it did not seem to work ... there is not enough room on the device itself, so where should I install this file? Any help would be appreciated.

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It shows them pretty good in

It shows them pretty good in our area. Washington state.

Create A Folder

renegade734 wrote:

I downloaded the file and located it to the memory card on my 2455 with map 2012.40. However, it did not seem to work ... there is not enough room on the device itself, so where should I install this file? Any help would be appreciated.

Create a folder on your SD card Garmin\JCV, then copy the D3060050A.jcv file to the .jcv folder.

Make certain to remove any .jcv file in your systems internal memory located in System\JCV folder.
Copy the file to your hard drive and save it in case you encounter any problems,
ALWAYS WISE to have a complete backup of all your GPS files

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@Ed Roson

t923347 wrote:

@ Ed Rozon

Not sure about your Zumo but there will be no JV's for your 660 as it isn't supported on those older models.

The JCV should already be on your Zumo. If you have an older map you can update the FW and maps to the latest. The FW fixes a shutdown problem on the Z660 and the latest map update adds many more JCVs than the earlier versions. It will all fit in the Z660's internal memory.

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+++++++1

TMK wrote:

I haven't seen more than 1 JV on my 1490 since a month or two after I bought it and did the update...biggest fraud ever perpetrated by Garmin IMHO!

What TMK said!!!

My experience must be odd

@perpster: My experience must be odd, in that I got three of them on a simple 12-mile stretch of highway. It sounds as if you and the person you quoted either live in places where junction views are sparse or else you didn't use the large file Garmin offers. If the former then you simply have bad luck. If the latter, that's your problem.

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"Biggest fraud" seems very strong words

perpster wrote:
TMK wrote:

I haven't seen more than 1 JV on my 1490 since a month or two after I bought it and did the update...biggest fraud ever perpetrated by Garmin IMHO!

What TMK said!!!

@perpster and @TMK
I have a 765T so it has been a long since I looked at GPS units. What was there in the package advertising that implied to either of you that you would get Junction Views for almost every split in the road?

WOW!

"Biggest fraud" that does seem a bit much.

I think the JVC is nice, but without it, I can still get to where I am going. I too have a 765T, and it shows enough of them for me. I find myself staring at ther JVC, trying to see how accurate the screen is with what's in front of me. Like so many things in life, it's fun to have, but it's not necessary.

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JCV

I think Junction View is great, especially the split screen version. I have a 3490 with the latest maps and here in Southern California, there's a Junction View for basically every single freeway exit! That's pretty incredible if you think about how many exits there are here! And on the major interchanges, there's even a "birds eye" view JV that pops up before the photo-realistic JV. Not sure how useful that is, but it's nice eye candy.

I think it's best use is for when you have a nagivator riding shotgun in a really unfamiliar area and he/she can study the JV and give you a heads up on where to exit. Otherwise, the lane assist arrows are faster to interpret for a driver. You then just look out the windshield and look for the signs.

765t will have large JCV file

My two main GPSs are a 765t (in my Suzuki SuV) and a 885t (in my bimmer convertible). Both have lifetime maps (and traffic). When I update the 765t, it gets the large jcv file. The 885t gets a small one. But I erase that and put the large file from the 765t in a Garmin/JCV folder on the mini-SD of the 885t. So then they both have all the junction views.

I like junction views but they have issues. The large file seems to have every intersection of the interstate highway system but very few other roads. For the junctions it has, the pictures normally match the overhead signs but they do not always match - which to me creates more confusion than if I had none. I've also had the issue mentioned earlier with the intersections being too close together to get the junction views (but not in Kansas City, that is where I grew up so I don't really need the GPS there). My issues were in Dallas/Ft. Worth (more on the downtown Ft. Worth area).

It is not hard to check on the internal memory size before buying a GPS is if bugs you to have to buy a SD card. I don't know why Garmin decided to be cheap about this with certain models but I don't see it as a big deal. My 885t has a decent amount of memory but uses a lot of it for voice control. I'll take that trade. I needed a SD anyway for my MP3 files.

Jim

I enjoy the JV

I always liked the JV but even more so since it went split screen.

Missing juntion views

I-74 n/b in Iowa, I noticed a missing view at Kimberley and at 53rd exits. They were there on the previous map updates.

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Odd

I got a new 2460LMT. It came with D3191020A.jcv, 457,005 KB. After map updates today, I had D3191050A.jcv, 460,009 KB. But the download link on POI for the "full" jcv file is to D3060050A.jcv, 757 MB!

Could this be a function of the half-screen junction views for this model? I'm thinking maybe the half-size images are in a file close half the file size of the larger one. Make sense?

????

spokybob wrote:

I-74 n/b in Iowa, I noticed a missing view at Kimberley and at 53rd exits. They were there on the previous map updates.

That view was removed by popular request rolleyes

Big jcv file for 2013.10 mapping

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Really?

BarneyBadass wrote:
spokybob wrote:

I-74 n/b in Iowa, I noticed a missing view at Kimberley and at 53rd exits. They were there on the previous map updates.

That view was removed by popular request rolleyes

Do you know why?

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Mystified

bramfrank wrote:

Is available here:

http://download.garmin.com/support/2013_10/NA/JV/D3060060A.JCV

bramfrank, Thanks for the link, but I am mystified as to why, if the 2460 has 8 GB of internal memory, with over 2 GB free, why would the jcv file Garmin puts there with the map update be nearly half the size of the big jcv file??

Could it have anyting to do with the new half-screen jcv implementation? Does a half screen jcv graphic take approximately half the file size of a full screen graphic? If so, that would/might explain the jcv file size difference.

Can anyone shed light on this? When I moved from the hamstrung 1490T to the oodles-of-RAM 2460LMT, I thought my jcv problem days were behind me! Thanks.

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