New Navigon Navigation

 

Have you all seen the new line of Navigon devices?

http://www.gpslodge.com/archives/024796.php#more

While not a Navigon user, they certainly have led a lot of the innovation of late in the market. The thing I really like is the different routing options and the times given to you before you start navigating.

Hopefully Garmin will take note and add this feature to its next generation of nuvi's.

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Great units

NAVIGON and NAVTEQ are partners on these units, and have been developing all the new features your seeing on your Nuvi's. I just wish the would hurry up and add the custom POI feature.

These new features are giving Garmin big problems with firmware writing though, they try to compete and get the out to market before the bugs and wrinkles are worked out..

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times are given, but not multi route options

ajhope wrote:

... The thing I really like is the ... times given to you before you start navigating.

The 7xx series does give you route times prior to starting to navigate (before hitting "Go"). When you select a POI, or destination, a little green box slides out and tells you the estimated route time.

Navigon/Navteq

BobDee wrote:

NAVIGON and NAVTEQ are partners on these units, and have been developing all the new features your seeing on your Nuvi's. I just wish the would hurry up and add the custom POI feature.

You keep insisting that Navigon and Navteq are in bed with each other. This is not true. Navigon bought a small part of the Navteq software business. Navteq is wholly owned by Nokia. Navigon is only partners with Navigon in that they buy maps from them...just like Garmin does.

For all the useful features Navigon has come up with, and they have come up with some great features, the reviews in general have not been that great. Let's hope they continue to improve.

Btw...you have knocked Garmin many times for obsoleting units that are not that old. Look how fast Navigon is coming out with new units. But to you that's good for Navigon, but bad for Garmin.

I hightlight your own words, need I say more!

grush wrote:
BobDee wrote:

NAVIGON and NAVTEQ are partners on these units, and have been developing all the new features your seeing on your Nuvi's. I just wish the would hurry up and add the custom POI feature.

You keep insisting that Navigon and Navteq are in bed with each other. This is not true. Navigon bought a small part of the Navteq software business. Navteq is wholly owned by Nokia. Navigon is only partners with Navigon in that they buy maps from them...just like Garmin does.

For all the useful features Navigon has come up with, and they have come up with some great features, the reviews in general have not been that great. Let's hope they continue to improve.

Btw...you have knocked Garmin many times for obsoleting units that are not that old. Look how fast Navigon is coming out with new units. But to you that's good for Navigon, but bad for Garmin.

Larger than you think though, and Navigon brings out new units about once a year, where Garmin brings out a new unit when they can't fix another.

Maybe the new version of the Nuvi's will be better, and not have firmware problems. I have said it before and I will repeat myself again, I also own Garmins, and don't like the newer nuvi's.

So I will ask you again, how many different GPSr's have you owned to compare anything to?

Bob

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re: Bob Dee

BobDee wrote:

Larger than you think though, and Navigon brings out new units about once a year, where Garmin brings out a new unit when they can't fix another.

Maybe the new version of the Nuvi's will be better, and not have firmware problems. I have said it before and I will repeat myself again, I also own Garmins, and don't like the newer nuvi's.

So I will ask you again, how many different GPSr's have you owned to compare anything to?

Bob

The fact that Navigon bought a very small part of Navigons software business has nothing to do with the quality of maps which Navigon gets directly from Navteq. I'll repeat what people have told you a million times...Navigon buys maps from Navteq like other GPSr manufacturers-that's it. Navteq is wholly owned by Nokia. The portion that Navigon bought is no longer affiliated with Navteq.

I've owned Garmin and Magellan. I have tried out the newer TomTom and Magellan units. I have also used various cell phone nav services. I am currently trying to borrow a Navigon unit to try out.

I know you don't like the newer nuvi's, and everybody realizes it and knows your bias. That's ok but don't try to push it on everyone. A lot of people don't take you seriously on this forum.

On the other hand I have written many good things about other units and written about faults with Garmin.

I have never seen a Garmin unit that can't be fixed through firmware. Which ones are you talking about?

The fact remains that Navigon, although they produce some good units and seem to be getting better don't generally get as good of reviews as Garmin. Can you show me one reputable online consumer site that rates the highest rated Navigon above the highest rated Garmin unit? I haven't found one yet.

Both Navigon and Garmin, and other electronics maufacturers frequently come out with new units. It's not a process that is specific to Garmin like you seem to want to say. Some of the newer Navigon units have only been out for a few months before these new models were announced...that's nothing close to a year.

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My impression is that Cornholio goes out of his way to promote Garmin on this forum.

When I buy a GPS I have no

When I buy a GPS I have no bias. If Tom Tom, Navagon or whoever, makes what appeals to me, after reading reviews, I would buy whatever unit that is. Price notwithstanding, I find it hard to see that other units and the overall features are up to what Garmin is making. The bugs are bothersome. For someone not interested or capable of keeping up with updates, I might agree to buy a less sophisticated unit from someone else. However reading the posts about other GPS units, there are problems there too.
But when working at it's full potential, as my 765T is now, it really is one of the best units available right now. Wish Garmin kept some of the features past units have had, but the newer features are better than the ones I lost. I give full credit to Garmin for continuing support as long as they do for discontinued units, and is the only reason I don't mind when drop them so quickly.

As just a personal observation/preference, there is something I don't like about how the mapping looks on Tom Tom as compared to Garmin.

Baaaaa Baaaaaaaaaa Blacksheep have you any Garmins

Gush,
Sorry dude, your a personal slammer, I don't do that.
I do however voice my option on products I own and use and those that make inferior products. You don't. If you want to continue to slam me personally my friend thats ok with me, My skin is very thick, I have spent many years sun bathing.

Your personal slams are what I would expect from someone my grandsons age. I don't care that you don't like me, even though I like you!

Your GPS knowledge is second hand, depending on Amazon for reviews. The people that have defective GPS know who they are and know the units. I suggest you read what people are say here then you would also know.

How about you create some content for us all to use, that would give something to do, rather than slam me.

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re: Bob Dee

BobDee wrote:

Gush,
Sorry dude, your a personal slammer, I don't do that.
I do however voice my option on products I own and use and those that make inferior products. You don't. If you want to continue to slam me personally my friend thats ok with me, My skin is very thick, I have spent many years sun bathing.

Your personal slams are what I would expect from someone my grandsons age. I don't care that you don't like me, even though I like you!

Your GPS knowledge is second hand, depending on Amazon for reviews. The people that have defective GPS know who they are and know the units. I suggest you read what people are say here then you would also know.

How about you create some content for us all to use, that would give something to do, rather than slam me.

1. You make personal slams a lot on these boards.

2. You voice your options?...that nice.

3. You have to admit a lot of your GPS knowledge is also second hand. You don't own and haven't tried all these units. I rely on a lot more than Amazon for reviews.

4. Why don't you create some content instead of slamming me and mouthing your extreme anti-Garmin bias?

Cornholio

GadgetGuy2008 wrote:

My impression is that Cornholio goes out of his way to promote Garmin on this forum.

That was unecessary. I don't go out of my way to promote Garmin. If you look at my posts, I've listed both positive and negative with Garmin and other units.

Knock it off

Pipe down boys!!!

No need for personal attacks, keep it friendly.

Miss POI

Re: Garmin vs ?

I've been a long-time user of GPS units (both Garmin and Magellan) from way, way back. If you've used these units for as long as some of us have, you have first-hand knowledge of their workings and of how they've advanced or declined.

If something Garmin puts out does not meet my expectations or is not an improvement over past models when it is touting as being such (nuvi 8x0 to the nuvi 8x5 for instance), I will be sure and let it be known (as in my comparison of the nuvi 760 to the nuvi 765). What I personally report & comment on is pretty much based on that first-hand experience.

I personally feel that Garmin has steadily been declining since that first nuvi 350 in both hardware & software quality control along with features and user-accessible configurability. Some may feel otherwise and just look at the "new features" of the new units.

When I bring these issues up in the forums (both here and elsewhere), it's not that I don't like Garmin (I do like them, hence my units)...it's because I feel that others need to be informed of issues with their products, both old and new. A new unit may look fantastic on paper & specs but once you get your hands on it, it may be a totally different story and not what you expected the unit to be like or how it actually performs.

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