Now that everyone has upgraded to Win 10 version 2004

 

...experts are saying to make a restoration copy of your existing installation. Discussion and how to do it are at https://www.computerworld.com …y-of-windows-10-2004.html

One thing, the article states an 8GB media is needed. I have had an occasional copy fail to write and had to go to a 16GB media. I never investigated why, but this seems to mostly occur with Dell laptops, perhaps because of some Dell included component.

Lastly, should you do this, makes copies of anything important on the media you choose because you will loose everything if you don't.

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I'm still waiting for Windows 10, Version 2004

Two of my computers updated and installed the Windows 10 2004 updates weeks ago but the third, when checking for updates, reads, "Feature Update for Windows 10, version 2004. The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is on its way. Once it's ready for your device, you'll see the update available on this page."

windows 10 iso

mcginkleschmidt wrote:

...

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10I...

Change your browser useragent to something none desktop/windows (i set android chrome). You can then select the language and bit (32/64) edition you want. Then download the full iso.

Use rufus (http://rufus.ie/) to write the image to a usb flash drive. Currently the above link is offering up build 2004.

Don't Worry, Be Happy

zx1100e1 wrote:
mcginkleschmidt wrote:

...

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10I...

Change your browser useragent to something none desktop/windows (i set android chrome). You can then select the language and bit (32/64) edition you want. Then download the full iso.

Use rufus (http://rufus.ie/) to write the image to a usb flash drive. Currently the above link is offering up build 2004.

I assume my Asus laptop shows something that Microsoft recognizes is not ready for the build 2004. Rather than risk the Blue Screen of Death or worse, I'm in no rush to place unnecessary hurdles in my path. I'm content to wait a while. Don’t worry, be happy. cool

I'm still on 1909. Won't be

I'm still on 1909. Won't be updating until Dec or later. I also make an image before applying any updates.

No Auto Updates

My computer is set to no auto updates and am on 1909. I don't want any manufacturer forcing updates on me.

Hope that works out for you

My Son who is IT for Charles Schwab can't have his computer update automatically due to the programs he needs to run. He had set his to hold off on updates. He even did a registry hack and somehow MS got through and did an update. He had a lot of work to do to straighten out what they messed up.

panama wrote:

My computer is set to no auto updates and am on 1909. I don't want any manufacturer forcing updates on me.

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Asus laptop.

mcginkleschmidt wrote:

Two of my computers updated and installed the Windows 10 2004 updates weeks ago but the third, when checking for updates, reads, "Feature Update for Windows 10, version 2004. The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is on its way. Once it's ready for your device, you'll see the update available on this page."

I have a 12 year old ASUS ROG laptop that originally shipped with Vista. Up until last week, I was getting that same message, but to my surprise, the 2004 update became available last week. It updated without issue although it took several hours to complete the update. I am pretty sure it is the old obscure Nvidia GPU that was causing the 2004 compatibility problem, as even the 1909 cumulative updates had quit working since last March. But apparently NVidia or Microsoft finally came out with a compatible driver for it.

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I wish I could

mcginkleschmidt wrote:

I assume my Asus laptop shows something that Microsoft recognizes is not ready for the build 2004. Rather than risk the Blue Screen of Death or worse, I'm in no rush to place unnecessary hurdles in my path. I'm content to wait a while. Don’t worry, be happy. cool

remember what I had to do, but until I made a settings change the laptop refused to update to 2004. If it returns in my memory I'll post it.

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I wish I could remember what I had to do...

Melaqueman wrote:
mcginkleschmidt wrote:

I assume my Asus laptop shows something that Microsoft recognizes is not ready for the build 2004. Rather than risk the Blue Screen of Death or worse, I'm in no rush to place unnecessary hurdles in my path. I'm content to wait a while. Don’t worry, be happy. cool

remember what I had to do, but until I made a settings change the laptop refused to update to 2004. If it returns in my memory I'll post it.

It is a good idea to run Windows updates and when it states "not ready" look in the section immediately below the message for "optional updates". These are often drivers for devices specific to your PC, perhaps an Intel or Nvidia chip, a BIOS upgrade, etc. Do what you think is important, then reboot your computer and retest.

Another thing that can be done is to check the Core isolation setting. Core isolation is a background process that prevents malicious code from running on the machine. To do this, or check its setting, type Device Security in the search box and hit enter.

Under "Core isolation", click on "Core isolation details"

If "Memory integrity" is enabled, turn it Off. Exit the settings, reboot and attempt to upgrade Windows. If successful re-enable the previous Core isolation setting.

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Still rock'n Windows 7

Still rock'n Windows 7 Ultimate. When I'm forced to Windows 10, it will probably be due to an upgrade to computer hardware. Other than that, I'll do a Windows 10 LTSB version and manually update. It seems updates nowadays make things worse...

Windows 10 Version

My desktop computer was built in april 2020 with Core I9 cpu and it is still running Ver 1909. My question is does 2004 improve anything or just contain more MS spyware

it's a moot point

stan393 wrote:

My desktop computer was built in april 2020 with Core I9 cpu and it is still running Ver 1909. My question is does 2004 improve anything or just contain more MS spyware

We don't know every single improvement in Feature Update 2004, but the question is moot. Microsoft intends to force feature updates at some point after a delay, starting with 2004.

They say that they cannot design monthly security updates if the users are delaying the feature updates too long.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3564597/microsoft-stri...

dobs108 smile

I have a Dell laptop and

I have a Dell laptop and thanks for the info

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I haven't upgraded to

I haven't upgraded to version 2004 yet. I typically wait several months for feature upgrades. I'm usually a level behind.
Microsoft Pro users cannot delay the update in Security Updates anymore starting with 2004. You now will have to configure a policy.

Knock on wood

Upgraded 4 computers and no issues ...

Upgraded mine ...

... and it's working flawlessly. I've never really had issues on any computer that I've ever updated over the years, whether it be a pre built pc or hand built. Maybe I'm just lucky.

just

ordered a new personal laptop. I do so every 5 years or so. It will have Win10 Pro so I'll see what version.

It's a ThinkPad X390 from lenovo on their eBay store. I was planning on getting a XPS13 from Costco but this was a little more than 1/2 the price, and $150 less than from lenovo.com...core i7 8th gen, 3 year warranty etc...

My work laptop is Win10 Pro but home laptop is Win7 Pro....had to keep it as such as I run the car dealer software on it (don't think it works on Win10 and need it). But turbotax won't run on Win7 for 2020 which is why I was planning on a new machine, it's been 5 years since I got the T450s....

Not I.

None of my computers have upgraded. Not sure if it's something I said.

thanks

great reminder

No updates is a dumb idea.

My computer is set to no auto updates and am on 1909. I don't want any manufacturer forcing updates on me.

No updates is a dumb idea. Most of the minor updates fix things like security issues and other bugs. Unlike the old times, MS is actually dealing with security issues now. Setting it to delay major updates is a good idea, as these updates are mostly feature updates and sometimes there are issues, like 2004 update. MS is actually trying to make you safer. So continue being belligerent about it but don't complain if you get hit by Mr Virus.

Check your update settings.

None of my computers have upgraded. Not sure if it's something I said.

Check your update settings. If you are talking about the major update, it will check you system first and may not update if there is a hardware issue or something else that may cause an issue.

I recommend Macrium Reflect

I recommend Macrium Reflect Free to image a drive. It is SUPER easy to do. I also recommend you do this b4 you do a major update. If it breaks things, it is VERY easy to get back to where you were.
I also recommend periodic images. If a drive fails you will be able to replace the HDD in about 1 hour instead of having to reinstall everything.
Another tip is to configure your system with 2 drives or partitions.
With C: and D: all your system stuff is on C:, all your stuff is on D:. The advantage of this is that you can restore your system without affecting your data and your system image will be a more manageable size file without all your data in it. You can separately back up your data with an image or use SYNCBACKFREE to back up files as changed.

To implement the above, it is very easy on a new computer/installation or if adding an SSD as a system drive. To do it on an existing installation you need to either have a large HDD or another drive you can copy your stuff to.

The process will not take long in most cases. The longest part is creating the image and the computer does all the work. The benefit is great. If you want the details you can probably find it by searching for "move windows profile to another drive". If not PM me and I will send the instructions.

Windows 10 2004 Update What a Mess

I made the mistake of updating Windows 10 to 2004 sunday or monday and what a mistake that was. I do some video editing and this update really screwed that up for me. Can not get audio and video to sync now. Tried reinstalling the video editor Nero Video ( 2014 version and 2020 version) no luck. Tried 3 different video editors no different. Updated the device drivers for both audio (sound card) and Video (Display Card) No change at all.Then i find out a few minutes ago Microsoft is having many problems with 2004 including drivers not working after updating to 2004. Here is some info https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-2004-were-already-l...

no scanner driver

About October 1st I had installed the Windows 10 Feature Update 2004. For a couple of weeks it seemed as if nothing was wrong.

Today I wanted to scan a document to email it, and the Canon MF4570dn Multifunction network printer/fax/scanner would not scan. This is possibly 9 or 10 years old! Printing and Fax worked fine, but the computer couldn't see the scanner.

I went to the Canon site to download the driver. On installing it, popups indicated correctly that the printer and fax were already installed properly, and the scanner driver was then installed. It worked perfectly.

Just like stan393, it was a driver problem.

A black mark for Microsoft and an "attaboy" for Canon!

dobs108 smile

Why should Microsoft keep up to printer/scanner manufacturers?

dobs108 wrote:

I went to the Canon site to download the driver. On installing it, popups indicated correctly that the printer and fax were already installed properly, and the scanner driver was then installed. It worked perfectly.

Just like stan393, it was a driver problem.

A black mark for Microsoft and an "attaboy" for Canon!

dobs108 smile

Wikipedia states that as of August 18th, there were 118 companies that design and manufacturer printers and scanners. Why should you expect Microsoft to keep up to date with 118 OEM’s, or perhaps even more devices. Shouldn't we expect the OEM’s to keep up with Microsoft? Is it an “attaboy” for Canon for dragging their feet? It may surprise some but every version of Windows is proceeded by a release of a “beta” version months in advance of public release. The “beta” is for peripheral OEM’s to test, rewrite drivers, etc.

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John from PA

Well said

John from PA wrote:
dobs108 wrote:

I went to the Canon site to download the driver. On installing it, popups indicated correctly that the printer and fax were already installed properly, and the scanner driver was then installed. It worked perfectly.

Just like stan393, it was a driver problem.

A black mark for Microsoft and an "attaboy" for Canon!

dobs108 smile

Wikipedia states that as of August 18th, there were 118 companies that design and manufacturer printers and scanners. Why should you expect Microsoft to keep up to date with 118 OEM’s, or perhaps even more devices. Shouldn't we expect the OEM’s to keep up with Microsoft? Is it an “attaboy” for Canon for dragging their feet? It may surprise some but every version of Windows is proceeded by a release of a “beta” version months in advance of public release. The “beta” is for peripheral OEM’s to test, rewrite drivers, etc.

Well said, John. I didn't realize how many OEM printers were out there. And to your point, I have a Brother printer and two or three times a year I get notified that there's a driver update available. Keeps me out of trouble.

Phil

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Phil in Mentor, Ohio -- Garmin Nuvi 1450

Me too

john9871 wrote:

Still rock'n Windows 7 Ultimate. When I'm forced to Windows 10, it will probably be due to an upgrade to computer hardware. Other than that, I'll do a Windows 10 LTSB version and manually update. It seems updates nowadays make things worse...

My GF has 10 on her desktop and I hate it...

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"You can't get there from here"

I run Windows 7 Pro or Linux

I run Windows 7 Pro or Linux Mint on my notebooks. I bought a new notebook last year with Intel i5 7th gen cpu. It took me several weeks to find the correct USB drivers.

We had windows 8 in one of our notebooks. My wife and I both hated it. I had to scroll through hundreds of tiles trying to find the program I was trying to run. Everytime I wanted to print I would have to reboot the printer and the pc because the printer would not be recognized. I found windows 7 drivers for all of the components and was eventually able to install it.

Windows 10 is spyware. Every website and keystroke gets sent to Microsoft.

I will keep Windows 7.

Hmmm

garmin-nuvi-user wrote:

I run Windows 7 Pro or Linux Mint on my notebooks. I bought a new notebook last year with Intel i5 7th gen cpu. It took me several weeks to find the correct USB drivers.

As an IT professional, I fail to understand your problem, except to say it is your problem. I help veterans at a local veterans facility with their computer issues, and with the rise of “virtual” communications many are buying new laptops to communicate with children, grandchildren, etc. I would guess I have purchased computers for a hundred or so vets since CoVid started. I can not think of a single instance where a computer, out of the box, had a “USB driver” issue. I’m not saying there aren’t some needed tweaks, but nothing I can trace to something as generic as a USB driver.

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John from PA

Legacy devices and added cards can be a problem

John from PA wrote:
garmin-nuvi-user wrote:

I run Windows 7 Pro or Linux Mint on my notebooks. I bought a new notebook last year with Intel i5 7th gen cpu. It took me several weeks to find the correct USB drivers.

As an IT professional, I fail to understand your problem, except to say it is your problem. I help veterans at a local veterans facility with their computer issues, and with the rise of “virtual” communications many are buying new laptops to communicate with children, grandchildren, etc. I would guess I have purchased computers for a hundred or so vets since CoVid started. I can not think of a single instance where a computer, out of the box, had a “USB driver” issue. I’m not saying there aren’t some needed tweaks, but nothing I can trace to something as generic as a USB driver.

I "Upgraded" to Win 10 from Win 7.

I have an Oregon Scientific (OS) WMR89A weather station that worked fine with the OS software in Win 7 and initially worked with Win 10. Somehow it suddenly quit after a Windows update. I did all the usual stuff - reinstall software, etc. Did a Google search and found out that other folks were having problems and it was related to the USB drivers. Win 10 versions were not available from OS at the time, but did appear a couple of months ago at the OS website. So now my PC recognizes the WMR89A but the OS software does not. Tried all the solutions I found on the web, but no luck.

I also bought a "4 Port SATA III (6Gb/s) PCI-e Controller Card CHIPSET:Marvell9215 Non RAID" card. Plugged it in and booted up the PC. Win 10 did not recognize it! I thought maybe that the card was bad. Stopzilla Optimizer knew it was there, but it could not find a driver for it. Did another Google search and could not find a driver for that chipset (not even on the chip maker's website). Found a thread on a forum that supplied a link to a PC manf. website that had the Win 10 driver. It worked fine. But now Stopzilla Optimizer says that driver is "out of date", but installing a new one fails. It works, so that's fine with me.

A computer "out of the box" works fine because the PC/Laptop manufacturer tested the software, but when you start adding devices to the bus - that isn't always true. An older Soundblaster card won't even work on Win 10 because the manufacturer considers it "obsolete" and has not created any drivers or software for it in Win 10.

People should not blame Microsoft when drivers are not available. They need to blame the device manufacturer. Device manufacturers are even slower for less popular devices.

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Metricman Nuvi 660, GTM-20 Traffic Receiver Nuvi 3597 GTM-60 Traffic Receiver Williamsburg, VA

Well said...

metricman wrote:

People should not blame Microsoft when drivers are not available. They need to blame the device manufacturer. Device manufacturers are even slower for less popular devices.

I'd also like to add that the one of the earlier negative comments about Microsoft (by dobs108) involved a Canon MF4570dn Multifunction network printer/fax/scanner. "dobs108" even noted the scanner is possibly 9 or 10 years old! Reviews indicate that to be true.

So the question arises, Canon has perhaps made several hundred different printers and scanners in that 9 or 10 years. Who do they take care of first, the guy with the 10 year old printer or the guy that bought one 6 months ago?

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John from PA

What -- Me Worry?

I have 3 systems that will never leave W7-64... That's due to one of two things or both:
1. hardware installed is W7-64 specific (or no W10 drivers, or existing drivers are not W10 compatible)
2. Software packages are not W10 compatible....

and I do not wish (No--REFUSE!!) to re-purchase EXPENSIVE HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE a second time.... Just to be "OK" with W10...

Wife's computer is only W10 system in the house and she has had issues with upgrades.... Though all fine now (unless it snuck another poor upgrade in overnight!!!) smile!

My systems WORK and WORK EFFICIENTLY!!! W10 GIVES NO NEW FEATURES THAT MAKE IT WORTH UPGRADING OVER.....
NO UPGRADE "NEED" HERE!!!

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

windows 7 had a perfect record

While running Windows 7 for ten years on two PCs, the number of times it disabled a driver, broke any software, or had a device with a USB problem, was ZERO. Any legacy device ran fine on Windows 7. Windows Update ran whenever it needed to. I never had to delay any updates. The number of blue screens or unresponsive computers in that time was ZERO.

Now, with Windows 10, we have to plan for and react to every Patch Tuesday, or face the consequences.

dobs108 smile

Absolutely the truth

I have a shortcut to System Management on my desktop so I can create a restore point more frequently. I have also gotten more aggressive with images for the system. With win 7 I never had to do a full re-image but with win 10 I already did 1 and got close on a 2nd time. And that is within 10 months of going to win 10. I have had to reinstall my printer twice.

dobs108 wrote:

While running Windows 7 for ten years on two PCs, the number of times it disabled a driver, broke any software, or had a device with a USB problem, was ZERO. Any legacy device ran fine on Windows 7. Windows Update ran whenever it needed to. I never had to delay any updates. The number of blue screens or unresponsive computers in that time was ZERO.

Now, with Windows 10, we have to plan for and react to every Patch Tuesday, or face the consequences.

dobs108 smile

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Nuvi 2460LMT.

Can you better define what you mean by "System Management"

pwohlrab wrote:

I have a shortcut to System Management on my desktop so I can create a restore point more frequently.

Can you better define what you mean by "System Management"? The Microsoft recommended procedure is

Quote:

Windows 10

In the search box on the taskbar, type "Create a restore point", and select it from the list of results.

On the System Protection tab in System Properties, select Create.

Type a description for the restore point, and then select Create > OK.

There are some way to simplify the process down to a 1-click icon on the desktop.

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John from PA

Oops. I meant System Protection

I just use a shortcut to the same area vs trying to remember to go through "search".

John from PA wrote:
pwohlrab wrote:

I have a shortcut to System Management on my desktop so I can create a restore point more frequently.

Can you better define what you mean by "System Management"? The Microsoft recommended procedure is

Quote:

Windows 10

In the search box on the taskbar, type "Create a restore point", and select it from the list of results.

On the System Protection tab in System Properties, select Create.

Type a description for the restore point, and then select Create > OK.

There are some way to simplify the process down to a 1-click icon on the desktop.

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Nuvi 2460LMT.

edge

im still having shits and giggles with the new edge broswer , when i start it i go to the task manager and turn a few things off and it doesnt randomly crash or do a very long pause when loading a web page ms keeps starting odd functions that never loaded before , you should try it and see what its doing right after loading it up it might surprise you ,telemetry loads up and then disapears and a few tems you never saw befor.

Disable it!

geo334 wrote:

im still having shits and giggles with the new edge broswer , when i start it i go to the task manager and turn a few things off and it doesnt randomly crash or do a very long pause when loading a web page ms keeps starting odd functions that never loaded before , you should try it and see what its doing right after loading it up it might surprise you ,telemetry loads up and then disapears and a few tems you never saw befor.

Nothing magic about Edge, just disable it, switch to Chrome, and give Edge another try in six weeks after another update.

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John from PA

2004 problem admitted by MS

I have encountered a problem created by 2004 which the web says Microsoft has admitted.

My web browser has an auto-fill feature for web site passwords. The passwords are stored in an encrypted file, and the feature has worked well for many years. When it stopped working recently, I did some searching on the web and found that the cause has been traced to the Windows update, and that multiple browsers were affected by this in several ways.

One person posting on the thread about this issue said that Microsoft has reproduced the problem and is planning to fix it.

- Tom -

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Surprised this still exists

-et- wrote:

I have encountered a problem created by 2004 which the web says Microsoft has admitted.

My web browser has an auto-fill feature for web site passwords. The passwords are stored in an encrypted file, and the feature has worked well for many years. When it stopped working recently, I did some searching on the web and found that the cause has been traced to the Windows update, and that multiple browsers were affected by this in several ways.

One person posting on the thread about this issue said that Microsoft has reproduced the problem and is planning to fix it.

- Tom -

I think the problem was first reported in early August. Seems like MS is dragging their feet getting it fixed.

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John from PA

I'm still on build 1909 and

I'm still on build 1909 and will remain on it, for now. I have rescue media for 1909 and will re-create it when I move to 2004. You should always have backups of your important stuff, or be OK with losing it. It will happen. I have a full backup of the entire hard drive that I update every week or two.

Consider an incremental backup

sunsetrunner wrote:

I have a full backup of the entire hard drive that I update every week or two.

Why not stretch your interval out on the full backup and then institute an incremental backup as well?

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John from PA

Maybe a good thing

My update is still stuck in
"The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is on its way. Once it’s ready for your device, you’ll see the update available on this page."

Don't know why. This computer is only a little over a year old. I guess it's a good thing??

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Same thing here.

mgarledge wrote:

My update is still stuck in
"The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is on its way. Once it’s ready for your device, you’ll see the update available on this page."

Don't know why. This computer is only a little over a year old. I guess it's a good thing??

Same thing here. I have a Asus Zenbook UX305 that I bought in 2015 and I get the same message when I check for updates. Yesterday for the first time ever I went to the Asus website to download and update all drivers, bios and firmware updates. I performed twelve new Asus updates on my laptop.

When done with the Asus updates I checked again to see if these new updates might initiate the Windows 10 May 2020 update. Nope! Same message as before. I'll just be content to wait a while longer. neutral

For those that have a “stuck” or not ready situation

If your PC uses an Intel chipset, you might want to install the Intel Assistant at https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html. After installation, it “looks” at your specific hardware and makes appropriate recommendations. I too was stuck and the Intel tool updated some things that Dell didn’t tell me about. After rebooting the Win 10 update was successful.

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John from PA

Windows 7 until it dies

I work in IT. I support the networking equipment. 90% of what I do uses Putty or I'm in command line mode. What do tiles do for me? Make it harder to get to command line mode to get my work done. Slow down the hard ware. No thank you very much.

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Yep!!!

camerabob wrote:

I work in IT. I support the networking equipment. 90% of what I do uses Putty or I'm in command line mode. What do tiles do for me? Make it harder to get to command line mode to get my work done. Slow down the hard ware. No thank you very much.

LOL.. I know the feeling about that!!!

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Bobkz - Garmin Nuvi 3597LMTHD/2455LMT/C530/C580- "Pain Is Fear Leaving The Body - Semper Fidelis"

My main box is on 1909.

My main box is on 1909. Will probably update to 2009 near the end of the year. Usually wait months before applying any updates, just in case something major is fubared.

My htpc runs as a windows 10 vm with gpu passthrough under esxi. I recently updated the video cards from a gt 710. Got a 1660 ti, but ended up putting that into the main box and 1050 ti from it to the htpc. The 1050 has lower power draw than 1660ti and for now serves the need for 1080p h265 (hevc) decoding. At some point when I get a 4k tv the 1660ti will get swapped in.

Anyway, gpu passthrough is a nightmare on esxi. Nvidia builds their drivers such that they don't work in a vm without much massaging. Turns out things worked relatively nicely under esxi 6.5.0, but the same settings failed under 6.7.0 and the latest 7.0. Read about a bizarre hack to disable the gpu (in device mgr) at shutdown, then re-enable on startup. Automating this wasn't too difficult (group policy shutdown/startup scripts). This was necessary to get the 1660ti working under esxi 7. However, this WAS NOT necessary with the 1050 ti. For now the htpc is still build 1803. I don't look forward to updating it unless absolutely needed. I can decode youtube 8k vp9 videos with either gpu - 8k av1 still relies on cpu as neither gpu supports it. A 2xxx series gaming card is overkill for htpc.

If anyone wants more details, start with thread 227 here - https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/troublesho... .

If you work in IT surely you know how to disable tiles

camerabob wrote:

I work in IT. I support the networking equipment. 90% of what I do uses Putty or I'm in command line mode. What do tiles do for me? Make it harder to get to command line mode to get my work done. Slow down the hard ware. No thank you very much.

I haven't followed the various Windows 10 releases, but a while back it was possible to disable the display of tiles, and even return to a "Classic" view which very closely resembled Windows 7.

Have you tried any of those methods?

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John from PA

Yep

I've done exactly that, no tiles for me and PC looks like Win 7 although it's running Win 10

Used a free program called Classic Shell

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