Windows 10 Email

 

Please excuse this post if it has been covered in one of the other Win 10 threads. I wasn't able to find pertinent information in my search attempts.

I'm in the process of setting up a new Win 10 PC and I'm trying to decide the best email option. Since many here have already converted to Win 10, I'm curious how you handle your email.

The "mail" and "Outlook" email options in Win 10 won't work with many old pop3 email servers including the one I now use with Windows Live Mail. The options, as I see them, are less than ideal.

1 - Download a copy of Windows Live Mail and continue to use it. Clearly, Live Mail is on the way out and who knows how long it will remain operational. Microsoft discontinued support for it in 2017.

2 - Use a browser to do email directly on the server. I stopped doing this years ago because it was too cumbersome and lacked features & flexibility.

3 - Create a new Outlook IMAP compatible email account with Hotmail, gmail, etc. This would mean changing my email address which for me would be a monumental task. I did this 20 years ago and I'm still missing mail sent to that old address. If I do this with Win 10 basic mail, it's free but lacks many of the features of Live Mail. There is an annual fee to use the full featured Outlook mail.

4 - Use a third party email client like Mailbird or Thunderbird. This could still require an address change and who knows how long they will be around.

I'm very curious what others here have done when converting to Win 10.

Best Buy did me

I've been on Win 10 for several years and continue to use the free email that comes with it. I don't like it, but I don't want to pay an arm and a leg for Outlook. The last couple of laptops I bought I bought from Best Buy and let the Geek Squad move my stuff over and get the email working. I've never looked under the covers to see how they've defined my setup. My email user id ends in ".ameritech.net" and is front-ended by yahoo.com. I've had the same email address since 1992 and can't imagine having to change it.

Phil

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All POP3 accounts are

All POP3 and WIndows Live accounts are working fine for me in Outlook 365 and Outlook 2019. Both in Windows 10 ver 1909.

I don't use Windows mail but for a hotmail account (Windows Live) and it works fine.

What I like about POP3 is I can set up all email accounts under one inbox, or separate inboxes as I prefer. IMAP only has separate inbox for each account.

I am not sure what your issue is with POP3 accounts, or which version of Outlook or MS Office you are working with.

eM Client

I've been using eM Client for several years on Win7. When I switch to Win10 in a couple weeks I will continue using eM Client. It's free to use for up to 2 email accounts. The paid version will allow unlimited accounts. The one-time purchase price is $49.95.

I switched to it back when Outlook Express went away and have been very happy with it. It supports both POP3 and IMAP.

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gmail for POP and SMTP

Up to three years ago I had been using Eudora to work with Verizon.net POP and SMTP servers. Verizon announced long in advance they would phase out the email servers, so I was forced to change to a new email address, but with a long period of transition.

I set up a gmail account. Gmail is web-based but it has extensive settings and capabilities, such as being able to set up accounts for POP and SMTP servers. I started using my gmail address but gmail could still access the Verizon servers during the transition.

Gmail has better capabilities than any PC-based email client. The most important advantage is that you can access it from any device, so my phone and tablet have gmail as well as Contacts and Calendar. I am more organized than ever!

dobs108 smile

Thunderbird

I'm a Thunderbird users since I like hard-drive folders for the stuff I want to keep. Thunderbird is set up to use my ISP's email (charter.net) and I also have my gmail address set up through its "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" feature to my charter.net account. Thunderbird also is set to retrieve email from my old ISP of over a year ago which is still active even though I no longer pay a fee to the old ISP.

I like Thunderbird since it's still supported and updated and is so much like my old Eudora.

I use (and highly recommend) Thunderbird

I use (and highly recommend) Thunderbird as an email client for Windows 10. I've been using Thunderbird for many, many years. It's never let me down, not even once. Many millions of people use Thunderbird by the way. And, it is free. Thunderbird also comes with a very nice calendar, and there are hundreds of very useful add-on extensions you can add to your Thunderbird to customize and tweak its usability and appearance for your needs.

I have numerous email accounts using verizon.net, outlook.com, gmail.com and others, all neatly packaged in Thunderbird. Works perfectly!

I don't like using the web to use email. I'll sometimes use the web when away on vacation, etc., but having all my accounts and emails handled by one email client with no advertisements or other quirky stuff the web accounts dish at you, it's a no-brainer to use Thunderbird. Also, if you need hundreds folders or sub-folders (literally) to keep track of emails from clients and just personal stuff, no problem! You can even use an add-on to sort the folders in the exact order you want them.

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Should Have Gone That Route.

When Verizon opted out of the email business, I kept Verizon.net through the AOL client server to avoid an address change.

You too should set up Thunderbird as your email client

bdhsfz6 wrote:

When Verizon opted out of the email business, I kept Verizon.net through the AOL client server to avoid an address change.

You too should set up Thunderbird as your email client. It's quick and easy. Then, you won't have to sign-in to AOL's web-based email.

Download Thunderbird here: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/

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Here is a screenshot I took of my Thunderbird a few days ago

Here is a screenshot I took of my Thunderbird a few days ago to show someone else the calendar's quick view right-hand 'Today Pane' that I have chosen to appear along with my emails. I can add events and tasks in the calendar (or have multiple calendars) and set them up with single events/tasks or repeating events and choose different colors to represent the different event/task categories. You can make Thunderbird and its built-in calendar as simple or as customized as you wish.

https://i.ibb.co/vDsPFtW/TB-Calendar.jpg

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I've no problems with Windows Mail, but I primarily use GMail in Firefox on my desktop and phone.

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Email client.

I still prefer the classic Pop3/Imap email client where you download and manage messages on your own computer rather than storing them on the mail hosting service. I use a product called OE Classic (www.oeclassic.com). The interface is almost identical to the old Microsoft Outlook Express which was popular on the Win 9x/Win XP platforms. I was actually able to import my old mail store from Outlook Express and Vista Windows Mail (Winmail.exe) that I had accumulated over many years … didn't lose any saved mail. The license for OE Classic is $25.

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I think a bigger problem is

I think a bigger problem is that a lot of email servers are forcing you from POP3 to IMAP for security reasons, so they say.

I use Thunderbird on all my PCs and Bluemail on my phone, all IMAP now.

If I'm not mistaken Google, Yahoo, etc are all going to drop POP3 soon.

My vote is for Thunderbird on a W10 PC. My wife uses it as a mail client for her gmail account. Personally I HATE using web based email through a browser.

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Using the Win10 app and happy

The wife and I both use the “native” mail app in Windows 10 and are quite happy. Keep in mind as well if you run MS Office, then you can also use Outlook.

You can find some good setup instructions at https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-use-the-mail-app-in-...

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John from PA

Tbird

bdhsfz6 wrote:

[Option 4:] Use a third party email client like Mailbird or Thunderbird. This could still require an address change and who knows how long they will be around.

For an email client, I was an Outlook 2010 perpetual license customer who grew, after converting to Win 10 in its early days, increasingly unhappy with Outlook 2010's accelerating stability and security problems. It seemed clear to me that M$'s strategy was to employ at best benign neglect to "encourage" customers to convert to Office subscription services, and that was a poor value in my judgment.

So instead I tried Thunderbird, and I haven't looked back. It's stable and reliable. The interface is very similar to Outlook 2010. I don't know that it works with every email address, but it works with all of mine including addresses for outlook.com, charter.net, yahoo.com, and runbox.com, so it seems unlikely to me that you would need a new email address just because you used Thunderbird as your email client.

It's free (though donations are welcome) and worth a try to see if it meets your needs.

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Open Office & Home Use Program

I've mentioned this before, but those of you that don't want to spend a lot of money for MS Office (Outlook, EXcel, PowerPoint, etc), check out www.openoffice.org It's highly rated and FREE!

I have MS Office 2010 (Office Pro Plus) (& 2013 Office Pro Plus [- but not installed]). I was able to get them for $19 USD thru the "MS Home Use program" that was available at my former employer. MS makes the "Home Use Program" available to large corporations that use their products. So if your employer uses MS office, they may qualify and you can save big bucks, plus the license allows you to put it on 2 machines with the limitation that it can only be used on one machine at a time. An email address at the employer is a must, because that's how they verify employment. Do not download at work. forward the verification email (with instructions) to your home and D/L it there. BE SURE THAT YOU ORDER THE "BACKUP DISC"!!! It's about $10 USD and if you ever have a "crash", it will be worth it. Be sure to save the license key in a safe place, otherwise the backup disc is useless.

When installed, MS Outlook will practically set your email up by itself - mine did and for both of the 2 email addresses I use.

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I still use Windows Live

I still use Windows Live Mail on both of my Windows 10 machines, one of which, a desktop, I had when windows 10 first hit the scene (previously had XP on it) and a laptop I bought a month ago. I also still use Photo gallery and Movie Maker, all of which were part of the Windows Live Essentials 2012 set. You can still get a copy of the whole set at cnet. They work fine for me.

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Libre Office

metricman wrote:

I've mentioned this before, but those of you that don't want to spend a lot of money for MS Office (Outlook, EXcel, PowerPoint, etc), check out www.openoffice.org It's highly rated and FREE!

If I may stick my .02 worth, here. Libre Office, libreoffice.org, is the better branch to use. It's same as Open Office but is better maintained, and is updated regularly.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

Email

I have been using Thunderbird for many years. This computer i am running Windows 7 and when 10 came out i switched to 10 for 2 years then went back to Windows 7. I know they plan to drop support for 7 and the "Sky is falling" folks may try to tell you 7 won't work after they drop support...hogwash. Thunderbird gets my vote. I do plan to replace this computer only because it will soon be 10 years old but it was top of the Dell line and starting to show signs of age now...Stan

Thunderbird

Can or is there a download of thunderbird that can also be used on cell phones and ipads?

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No, but your built in Apple

No, but your built in Apple Mail app should handle any mail system you are using.

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Thunderbird

For many (many!) years we have used Mozilla Thunderbird for email. I can't imagine having to go to a web site to retrieve my mail. What a pain in the butt. We've used Firefox for our browser and Thunderbird as our email client for a very long time and have been happy with them.

I also use Lightning which is a calendar add-on for Thunderbird. I have other calendars such as on my phone and tablet (which back up in the cloud) but on my laptop I use Lightning. Works well for me.

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Thunderbird

phranc wrote:

No, but your built in Apple Mail app should handle any mail system you are using.

Thanks

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follow up

Lost Anyway wrote:

...it seems unlikely to me that you would need a new email address just because you used Thunderbird as your email client.

I should have added: when you set up Thunderbird, it asks you if you want to set up a new email address. Say NO to that offer. Last time I saw it, it was not a good deal compared to what you can get for free in my experience from sites like yahoo.com, outlook.com, or your US (with the possible exception of California as of tomorrow) ISP. Be aware that *of course* privacy is not a 01/01/2020) with any of the free email services, or with your ISP. You can assume that they are monitoring your email, and they are marketing what they can mine. Runbox (apparently based in *Europe* where privacy standards are stricter compared to the corporate-controlled USofA) is one of numerous paid email services, reasonably priced and a better value than what Thunderbird offers to people willing to pay for email. I have used Runbox and can also recommend it. It *may* offer some privacy and does not obviously mine/market or upsell their subscribers. You *may* get what you pay for.

I agree with the posts following mine above. You won't go wrong with Windows Live Mail, Libre, or Open Office. I just found my niche with Thunderbird, probably because it had an interface very similar to what I was used to, only it was current, maintained, and much more reliable in Win 10 than "permanent" license Outlook 2010.

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msn

when I go to my msn and click on mail I get Hotmail and live.com and im using windows 10 pro 64 bit, I get them both at the same time! im going to do away with my hot mail account because I have had problems with it before and its old and I only used it for a junk account and I migrated all the good addresses to my live account.

Take a Look at LibreOffice

metricman wrote:

I've mentioned this before, but those of you that don't want to spend a lot of money for MS Office (Outlook, EXcel, PowerPoint, etc), check out www.openoffice.org It's highly rated and FREE!

As an alternative to OpenOffice, take a look at LibreOffice. Without getting too technical, LibreOffice is a "fork" of OpenOffice. I won't get into which one is "better" as that is highly subjective, but it is worth a look.

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Pop3

Lost Anyway wrote:

it seems unlikely to me that you would need a new email address just because you used Thunderbird as your email client.

I realize Thunderbird, as well as many other email clients, handle pop email addresses. Verizon, my current provider, may eliminate pop3 email accounts (through AOL) at some point as the format becomes more obsolete. That is why an address change may be necessary.

My statement was not meant to be specific to Thunderbird. This would happen regardless of which email client I choose.

abandonment

Very long ago, I intentionally got my first (dialup) Internet service and email address from AT&T (the offering was branded Worldnet--if you can remember back that far). I expressly thought I was paying extra for one that was unlikely to disappear, as I thought losing my email address would be bad.

However, as the world turned, eventually the successor company to AT&T (once again now named AT&T, but not really the same company at all) turned off that set of e-mail addresses forever years and years ago.

I resolved never again to start using a new e-mail address associated with a particular ISP. I've been standardized on Gmail accounts for quite a while now, and treat my few Comcast (which has been my ISP throughout my beyond dialup era) e-mail accounts as legacy items with almost no useful traffic.

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I also have forsaken all

I also have forsaken all other addresses and have been using Gmail for longer than I care to remember. It's easily accessed, has enough storage to keep years of archived mail, and can be accessed both on line and nearly every branded mail program.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

POP3 to IMAP

bdhsfz6 wrote:
Lost Anyway wrote:

it seems unlikely to me that you would need a new email address just because you used Thunderbird as your email client.

I realize Thunderbird, as well as many other email clients, handle pop email addresses. Verizon, my current provider, may eliminate pop3 email accounts (through AOL) at some point as the format becomes more obsolete. That is why an address change may be necessary.

My statement was not meant to be specific to Thunderbird. This would happen regardless of which email client I choose.

POP3 accounts can be switched to IMAP via most client email programs WITHOUT changing addresses.

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I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.

Thunderbird

I've always been partial to Thunderbird myself. Works great and serves my needs very well.

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Interesting - can I ask

I currently use Gmail on my laptop, iPhone and iPad. Everything always the same and in their folders (labels). I use my web browsers and Gmail apps.

If I'm reading all this right, if I use a client (like thunderbird or outlook), will the client on my laptop always be synced and all my folders be shown just like logging into Gmail and on the app?

Mail app that comes with

Mail app that comes with Windows 10 offers very basic features.

2. Browser based mail offers so many more features today compared to years ago. This is what I prefer to use.

3. Why do you need another mail account to use IMAP? Use your current mail account and email address. You just need to point your mail app to the correct IMAP servers.

4. Again, I don't understand why you need a new mail account to use a different mail app.

Under accounts Windows 10

chewbacca wrote:

Mail app that comes with Windows 10 offers very basic features.

2. Browser based mail offers so many more features today compared to years ago. This is what I prefer to use.

3. Why do you need another mail account to use IMAP? Use your current mail account and email address. You just need to point your mail app to the correct IMAP servers.

4. Again, I don't understand why you need a new mail account to use a different mail app.

On Windows 10. Click on setting bottom right,all settings,accounts and then Email and accounts. Now click add an account. Once completed go to your email app,right click on it and pin it to the taskbar.

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charlesd45 wrote:
chewbacca wrote:

Mail app that comes with Windows 10 offers very basic features.

2. Browser based mail offers so many more features today compared to years ago. This is what I prefer to use.

3. Why do you need another mail account to use IMAP? Use your current mail account and email address. You just need to point your mail app to the correct IMAP servers.

4. Again, I don't understand why you need a new mail account to use a different mail app.

On Windows 10. Click on setting bottom right,all settings,accounts and then Email and accounts. Now click add an account. Once completed go to your email app,right click on it and pin it to the taskbar.

FYI
I didn't ask for help. I don't like Win 10 mail app. It's too basic. Webmail offers a whole lot more features for my hosted Office 365 mailbox.

My own commentary

1) Re the "changing email" issue--that's one reason I've tried to not rely on ISP-provided emails. (Mergers and rebrandings occur fairly often.) Gmail is an option if you don't run your own webhost somewhere, and is even a good backup if you DO.

Also--if you are also running your own website with its own domain--another option may be to actually set up an email account pointing to your website's domain using the tools on your webhost. (And actually doing full web hosting is relatively inexpensive now--around $3-5 dollars a month at some well known and reliable hosts like Fatcow or Bluehost, and around $10 yearly or less for the domain registration itself--and you can find cheaper rates on the domain reg.) This is the solution I hit on a good six years before Gmail was a Thing, and if you're already hosting your own website I highly recommend this approach as well.

2) Re the "client issue"--I've always been happy with Thunderbird and will happily join the chorus suggesting its use. It's under very active development (brought to you by the same folks who bring you the Firefox browser), can handle both IMAP and POP3 email like a champ, and I have even used it to pull down archives off my existing Gmail account to keep the inbox from getting too full. (It also works great if you have a webhost on a separate domain and get POP3 or IMAP email from your webhost.)

Possible reason for concern

KenSny wrote:
bdhsfz6 wrote:
Lost Anyway wrote:

it seems unlikely to me that you would need a new email address just because you used Thunderbird as your email client.

I realize Thunderbird, as well as many other email clients, handle pop email addresses. Verizon, my current provider, may eliminate pop3 email accounts (through AOL) at some point as the format becomes more obsolete. That is why an address change may be necessary.

My statement was not meant to be specific to Thunderbird. This would happen regardless of which email client I choose.

POP3 accounts can be switched to IMAP via most client email programs WITHOUT changing addresses.

I could be mistaken, but I think part of his concern is that Verizon might discontinue the aol.com domain entirely for email (which WOULD force an email address change).

If they keep the aol.com domain for IMAP email, the only thing they should have to change is the settings in their email client to tell it to pull from IMAP versus POP3--it shouldn't result in a change in email address.

(Let's just say I've been through this process before--with a recently-deceased community-net account (that I had from the time said community-net opened to the public in 1993ish to the final sunset of its email server on New Year's Eve), with Gmail itself in its early beta, with a few other old shell accounts I've had, and yes, even with an old Yahoo hosted domain. Fortunately the email addresses don't change with a straight POP3-to-IMAP conversion, unless the actual domain (the part after the @ symbol) changes.)

Thunderbird...

You can use any email address and either POP or IMAP. You choose either type of mail. We use both for the same account. When we get too many IMAP mail on the server, I download them to the POP account. It has served us well for many years.

No problem...

trigon wrote:

You can use any email address and either POP or IMAP. You choose either type of mail. We use both for the same account. When we get too many IMAP mail on the server, I download them to the POP account. It has served us well for many years.

Sorry about this duplicate posting!

No problem...

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