Garmin DriveSmart 51 — DriveAssist 51 Traffic question

 

Hey there users of the 51 series, noticed on the Garmin web site for product description of these models that a Smart Phone is required for Traffic Notifications.

Will these units pick up the “normal Garmin Traffic” with the supplied as is boxes unit or the HD Traffic with the GMT 60 cable.......without a smartphone?

I don’t have a smart phone but I do have the GMT 60 HD digital traffic cable and was wondering if this cable work with these units, without having to go through all that smart phone stuff. I’m too old for all that smart phone stuff.

Thanks.

It should work

The Drivesmart 51 Garmin page:

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/552072#accessories

lists both the GTM 60 and 36 as being compatible with the Drivesmart 51. Give your GTM 60 a try in an area offering HD traffic.

Traffic

NASAstronut wrote:

Hey there users of the 51 series, noticed on the Garmin web site for product description of these models that a Smart Phone is required for Traffic Notifications.

Will these units pick up the “normal Garmin Traffic” with the supplied as is boxes unit or the HD Traffic with the GMT 60 cable.......without a smartphone?

I don’t have a smart phone but I do have the GMT 60 HD digital traffic cable and was wondering if this cable work with these units, without having to go through all that smart phone stuff. I’m too old for all that smart phone stuff.

Thanks.

I know that the DriveSmart 61 required a "smart phone". I bought one and when it would not receive traffic I took it back.

I don't do apple or google.

Should

It was my understanding that if you use the traffic receiver, it will in fact work but you'd lose the ability to have any online features such as Tripadvisor, Foursquare, etc. You can't have both. Only way to retain that is to use the traffic via the smartphone. For me, I hate connected services so I'd forfeit those features due to privacy issues anyway (data mining). Not sure if there are any settings needed to be changed to use the traffic receiver. I doubt it but I wouldn't know. I'm still using an older 3490LMT myself.

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Garmin: GPSIII / StreetPilot / StreetPilot Color Map / StreetPilot III / StreetPilot 2610 / GPSMAP 60CSx / Nuvi 770 / Nuvi 765T / Nuvi 3490LMT / Drivesmart 55 / GPSMAP 66st * Pioneer: AVIC-80 / N3 / X950BH / W8600NEX

Traffic

I tried two DriveSmart 61. Nether one would receive traffic on the cable supplied with the unit.

Drive x1 series.

@jjen ... AFAIK, none of the 2017 Drive x1 series sold in North America come with a built-in traffic receiver or a GTM style receiver integrated into the power adapter. You can add a GTM traffic receiver as a separate purchase to most of the higher end models.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

Solution

I bought a DriveSmart 60 instead.

Wise choice.

jjen wrote:

I bought a DriveSmart 60 instead.

Wise choice. If you want a conventional traffic receiver, it makes good sense to stick with the 2016 x0 models and avoid the 2017 X1 models. About the only thing extra you get on the x1 is WiFi ... not worth it IMO.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

Tested w/2017 Models?

So has anyone successfully tested a traffic receiver cable with the latest series? I wanted to go this route since it was supposedly possible but I'm now second guessing this.

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Garmin: GPSIII / StreetPilot / StreetPilot Color Map / StreetPilot III / StreetPilot 2610 / GPSMAP 60CSx / Nuvi 770 / Nuvi 765T / Nuvi 3490LMT / Drivesmart 55 / GPSMAP 66st * Pioneer: AVIC-80 / N3 / X950BH / W8600NEX

same

jjen wrote:

I tried two DriveSmart 61. Nether one would receive traffic on the cable supplied with the unit.

I have the same Garmin. Evidently we're victims of Garmin's desire to keep their costs low. So will have to look for a cheap HD traffic cable. Frustrating.

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Garmin Drive Smart 61 NA LMT-S

3597 Traffic cable works with DriveLuxe 51

Preroll wrote:

So has anyone successfully tested a traffic receiver cable with the latest series? I wanted to go this route since it was supposedly possible but I'm now second guessing this.

I got a DriveLuxe 51 but have been using the traffic cable that came with the 3597. It is listed on Garmin as being the compatible traffic cable for the 51. It seems to work fine but I also usually have the Smart Link software connected to the 51. The phone gets the traffic faster than the cable but both work together seamlessly.

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Brent - DriveLuxe 51 LMT-S

Thanks!

brentrn wrote:
Preroll wrote:

So has anyone successfully tested a traffic receiver cable with the latest series? I wanted to go this route since it was supposedly possible but I'm now second guessing this.

I got a DriveLuxe 51 but have been using the traffic cable that came with the 3597. It is listed on Garmin as being the compatible traffic cable for the 51. It seems to work fine but I also usually have the Smart Link software connected to the 51. The phone gets the traffic faster than the cable but both work together seamlessly.

Well that's good to know. You're using the GTM-60 I assume? I was told it was one or the other so glad you were able to prove that wrong. I'm still using a 3490LMT so I guess I could use that cable if I upgrade. I went to CES this year and they said by summer there should be new automotive models released (nothing major - just some feature enhancements) so I'd like to check those out before getting a 51 deluxe. I also miss the smaller form factor. Apparently that is not coming back according to Garmin. 5" and up is what's only going to be released. I liked the pocket 4.3" size. Anyway, let's hope we can continue to use a traffic receiver cable as an option. I don't want have to rely on my cell phone for added features.

Thanks again.

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Garmin: GPSIII / StreetPilot / StreetPilot Color Map / StreetPilot III / StreetPilot 2610 / GPSMAP 60CSx / Nuvi 770 / Nuvi 765T / Nuvi 3490LMT / Drivesmart 55 / GPSMAP 66st * Pioneer: AVIC-80 / N3 / X950BH / W8600NEX

Two weeks ago, I took a trip

Two weeks ago, I took a trip from Virginia to Florida, via Central Georgia. The trip down and back took about 30 hours. During all that time, Traffic via the Garmin cable was only available for about an hour and half. Leaving me with no traffic for 27.5 hours.

SmartLink is the way to go.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

GTM-60 works with DriveLuxe 51

Preroll wrote:

You're using the GTM-60 I assume?

Yes. I am using my old GTM-60 cable with the DriveLuxe 51.

I find Smart Link works much, much better with the 51 than it did with the 3597. I frequently had to re-pair the Garmin with my phone. With the 51 and my iPhone X I only had to set it the first time. It has connected flawlessly every time I start the car.

One downside is that the traffic color can be harder to see has it only makes a thin color line on the map. On the 3597 is was thicker and checked to stand out better.

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Brent - DriveLuxe 51 LMT-S

guess

phranc wrote:

Two weeks ago, I took a trip from Virginia to Florida, via Central Georgia. The trip down and back took about 30 hours. During all that time, Traffic via the Garmin cable was only available for about an hour and half. Leaving me with no traffic for 27.5 hours.

SmartLink is the way to go.

Guess the phone does work. But, seems to me it's a question of not depleting your battery and using your data.

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Garmin Drive Smart 61 NA LMT-S

Good points

Those are good points Garmin Gal. But many people (me for one) usually have the phone on the charger while driving, and the Smartphone Link data usage is very small for the service it provides.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

In all of that trip, 30 some

In all of that trip, 30 some hours, I only used less than a 100 mb with Smart Link. Traffic uses so little data that it is negligible.

I've run the same trip with Waze and Google, and used less than 500mb. It doesn't take anywhere near the data to give you traffic you might think it takes. Sure, if you only have 1GB of data in your plan, I might say you would be strained.

With Smart Phone Link, you can't tell the difference in battery usage over not using it. It runs in the back ground.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267