Another tradegy blamed on the GPS guidance

 

Sounds like "stupid driver"

Sounds like "stupid driver" not "stupid GPS". Oops, maybe the nannys will get involved & pass more laws....

--
I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.

you can't

fix stupid.

--
Illiterate? Write for free help.

Agreed.

Box Car wrote:

fix stupid.

I agree, this is not a possibility. I feel bad for the wife for marrying someone this dumb, and that she is no longer around.

On a side note, I believe the article mentioned the road was changed back in 2009, which is about 6 years ago! I'm guessing that the maps in most (all) GPS map providers would have had this corrected by now. How old were the maps on his device?

--
Streetpilot C340 Nuvi 2595 LMT

.

shrifty wrote:
Box Car wrote:

fix stupid.

I agree, this is not a possibility. I feel bad for the wife for marrying someone this dumb, and that she is no longer around.

On a side note, I believe the article mentioned the road was changed back in 2009, which is about 6 years ago! I'm guessing that the maps in most (all) GPS map providers would have had this corrected by now. How old were the maps on his device?

Dumb or a coward? Or is it a plan executed successfully?

Iftikhar Hussain apparently drove around the barricades and off the bridge. When it crashed, he exited the vehicle and ran, leaving his wife behind in the passenger seat, just moments before the car became engulfed in flames, police said.

Something not quite right...

I'm in agreement -- something not quite right in this story.

Blaming "GPS made me do it" when he *drove around barracades* doesn't fly.

--
Nuvi 2460, 680, DATUM Tymserve 2100, Trimble Thunderbolt, Ham radio, Macintosh, Linux, Windows

just like wine

shrifty wrote:

On a side note, I believe the article mentioned the road was changed back in 2009, which is about 6 years ago! I'm guessing that the maps in most (all) GPS map providers would have had this corrected by now. How old were the maps on his device?

Don't know how old his map was but I have one Garmin with a 7 year old map (no lifetime updates)that is permanently mounted in the vehicle just to alert on RLC and some light guidance, our main Garmin unit we use for out of town travels gets regular maps updates.

--
Garmin 38 - Magellan Gold - Garmin Yellow eTrex - Nuvi 260 - Nuvi 2460LMT - Google Nexus 7 - Toyota Entune NAV

As an experienced GPS User...

The defense probably would not want me on the jury if Iftikhar Hussain is charged with Reckless Homicide (and it is shown to be the fact that he ignored posted signs and drove around the orange cones & barracades). rolleyes

Under those circumstances, I could not buy into a GPS defense.

--
Garmin nüvi 3597LMTHD, 3760 LMT, & 255LMT, - "Those who wish for fairness without first protecting freedom will end up with neither freedom nor fairness." - Milton Friedman

Quite the story

Quite the interesting story?

In another article it sounds

In another article it sounds a lot more like homicide:

Zohra Hussain, 51, of the 6100 block of North Kedvale Avenue in Chicago, was a passenger in the car when her husband, 64, drove their 2014 Nissan Sentra around the barricades and off the Cline Avenue bridge deck, dropping onto the BP Amoco property below, according to Patti Van Til, Lake County Sheriff's Department public information officer.

The driver was able to exit the vehicle after it landed, however his wife, who was sitting in the front passenger seat, was unable to get out and died when the vehicle became engulfed in flames, Van Til said.

Van Til said the Cline Avenue bridge is marked with numerous barricades, including orange barrels, cones and large wood signs with orange striped markings reading "ROAD CLOSED." There also are concrete barricades across the road to mark the closure.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/news/ct-p...

The lesson: update your

The lesson: update your maps!

--
Garmin Drive Smart 61 NA LMT-S

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/official-cline-avenu...

"Scott Green, of Wilmette, Ill., said he came within 4 feet of driving off the bridge deck a month ago while on his way to Indianapolis.

Green, who is not familiar with the area and decided to take Cline Avenue after looking at a map, said he was able to drive around concrete barriers after entering eastbound Cline Avenue from the Indiana Toll Road.

Green said he encountered at least one and perhaps two concrete barriers, but they were blocking only two of the three lanes on the road.

Green said he didn't recall seeing any signs saying the road is closed or that the bridge is out. He saw frozen tire tracks, he said.

"I saw a car coming the other way on the other side," he said. "I saw that and I thought, 'OK, the road must be open.' That sort of gave me the confidence to keep going," he said.

When he realized the road was ending, he slammed on the brakes, he said.

Green admitted he felt stupid following his close call, but he wanted to speak out to prevent anyone else from making the same mistake."

--
. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .

No, the lesson is: don't

No, the lesson is: don't drive past barricades.

However, this may not be an accident.

--
I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.

But you can stun it with a

But you can stun it with a 2'X4'!

But you can stun it with a

But you can stun it with a 2'X4'!

Agreed

Wow. I have to agree with most of you. You just can't fix stupid.

--
"Keep your eyes on the stars, and your feet on the ground." Theodore Roosevelt///Garmin Nuvi 2555LMT, Garmin Nuvi 2455LMT, Garmin Edge 605

Common sense is not very

Common sense is not very common

Maybe..

"A driver may have been following GPS navigation when he drove off the ramp to a demolished bridge in northwest Indiana that had been closed since 2009, killing his wife, police said."

7xx and 8xx came out in 2007 and back then we didn't get free updates. He might have had an old Map. We have no idea. We all know that these things seem to be user friendly but what happens when you do not set your avoidance's, you can end up on ferry's, toll roads, and dirt roads. And we all know how to get from point a-b in our home town faster than the gps can take us. These things can and will get you into trouble if you do not know what you are doing. Stupid? Maybe... I remember a couple of years or so ago ending up in some Farmers field on a dirt road with my 30' trailer. Wasn't easy backing it up. I trusted my GPS. My 765T was still running back then. At the time I couldn't figure it out. After a long while I found it under avoidance's dirt road was still ticked. Never made that mistake again. Farmers Field, dirt road, could have turned out nasty but it didn't. We will here stories like this again.

--
DriveSmart 65 - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

And they live and drive among us

as said before "You can't fix stupid"!!!
If your GPS tells you to make a turn into a ONE WAY street going the wrong way, would you do that????

--
Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

Idiots

It's unbelievable how some people can be so clueless.

Good Advice.

Garmin Gal wrote:

The lesson: update your maps!

Good advice.

I have the latest map (2015.40) on all my Garmins.

Just took a look of the map on Mapsource. To my dismay, the Garmin 2015.40 map still shows the Cline Street Bridge and the roads leading to it as open, even though Here Map and the other on-line maps (Google, Yahoo, Navteq) that I checked all show it is no longer there. The bridge has been torn down since January 2013 according to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_State_Road_912

And I thought Garmin's maps are synchronized with Here maps.

Did a simulation run. Garmin dose route around the closed bridge if the starting and ending points are relatively far away from the bridge. So Garmin's map does know the bridge is gone.

However, in the unlike event, if the starting and ending points are very close to the bridge, e.g from Riley@Hwy12 to exit 5a of Hwy192 just east of Dickey Road and vise versa, Garmin will route you over the bridge! Garmin thinks the bridge is still around!

No substitution for common sense and being observant and paying attention.

there is a lag

Pillowcase wrote:

Good advice.

I have the latest map (2015.40) on all my Garmins.

Just took a look of the map on Mapsource. To my dismay, the Garmin 2015.40 map still shows the Cline Street Bridge and the roads leading to it as open, even though Here Map and the other on-line maps (Google, Yahoo, Navteq) that I checked all show it is no longer there.

The maps are synced to Here however there is a lag between Here's latest maps and those on your automotive GPS. From other discussions over the years, that lag can be 2 years because of the terabytes of data that has to be stripped from Here's release to Garmin's release and the syncing of the extra features such as lane guidance and junction views.

--
Illiterate? Write for free help.

stupid driver

GPS is an aid for direction.

--
Val - Nuvi 785t and Streetpilot C340

questionable intent

selfruler wrote:

The defense probably would not want me on the jury if Iftikhar Hussain is charged with Reckless Homicide (and it is shown to be the fact that he ignored posted signs and drove around the orange cones & barracades). rolleyes

Under those circumstances, I could not buy into a GPS defense.

The GPS defense is pretty weak, but unless he was attempting a murder/suicide he put himself in pretty much the same danger as his wife. Not a good plan if he was expecting to survive.

maps

I keep my GPS updated and still it had me going wrong we stopped at a restaurant in Arizona ate and left and the gps had me going up some dead end dirt road in the desert so I turned around and went back to the same town and it sent me off to a concrete barrier, so I asked directions and turned off the gps after I got several miles down the road I turned it back on and it was good. I don't know if the gps had a brain fart or the backwater town roads weren't updated. a little common sense helps with all things lol

I know of one local minor

I know of one local minor street that was permanently barricaded for Baltimore's Light Rail system. The Light Rail opened in 1992 – I presume that is when the barricade was installed. It is still paved so I guess the barricade could be removed in the event of a major emergency. It still shows as drivable on Google Maps and my last Nuvi map update. And yes, I reported it.

Funny thing is when I bought the Nuvi, I wanted to “test” it to be sure it was working. I threw it in the car and went to an event nearby. After it was over, I turned the Nuvi on for the first time in the car and said to go home. It's very first instruction ever tried to route me on to the barricaded street. Does not exactly inspire faith in it's directions.

Stupidity / Murder

Hard to tell which in this story.

Could be a clever killer, but I never underestimate the stupidity of people.

In Pace Requiescast Zohra Hussain

pathetic

And do think this person is allowed, no encouraged to vote!

--
Never argue with a pig. It makes you look foolish and it anoys the hell out of the pig!

I see comments here to keep

I see comments here to keep maps updated, etc. That has nothing to do with this story, your car is not on auto-pilot, the driver should be aware of where they are. Do not drive around barricades. People did manage to drive cars & observe where they were going before they had a GPS.

Some people should not be allowed to pass on their genes.

--
I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.

Sometimes, it appears that...

common sense is simply lost!

--
RKF (Bethesda, MD) Garmin Nuvi 660, 360 & Street Pilot