My first time playing with Google Maps.
Using Google Maps, I get directions between two addresses in different states (NY & PA). It offers three routes to take, none are ideal. I move the pointer and change the direction of the route to take highways I want. Everything works fine and the driving instructions clearly display the route I want.
I then transfer the .GPX file to the Nuvi by selecting "send to" and click the GPS box. The file transfers properly using Garmin Communicator and is now in the GPX folder.
When I view favorites the route is there only the Nuvi has changed the route. The route it displays is the same one available for faster time if I enter the addresses in "Go To". I don't want that route, by using shorter distance it changes a bit but also unacceptable.
I have done this to all three of my Nuvis, 660, 765T, and 2460.
All have lost the directions of the Google Route I created and substituted the faster time the Nuvi generates.
Am I doing something wrong, perhaps I left out a step, or are the Google Maps directions not recognized by Garmin Nuvi's?.
The GPX file sent from Google has only a start and end point so the unit recalculates a path based on its settings.
If you don't want the route to be changed, then you need to add more waypoints to "force" the route to go where you want.
BoxCar is correct. Google Maps does not support route export to Garmin; in fact, only the destination, not even the start point gets sent. This is a Google restriction, not Garmin. Mapquest does support route transfer, so you may want to give it a try.
There are 3rd party plugins/applications that will take a Google map route and generate a GPX file containing all the route points (start, end, waypoints) suitable for import to the nuvi.
Will you point us to a couple of links, please?
Thanks for the information that Google Maps do not support route exports to Garmin units.
Can you suggest a reliable 3rd party plugim/application to import a Google.gpx file to the Nuvi.
You can always try to change the settings from fastest route to the other options ie shortest distance and see if your desired route appears. Another option is to hit the detour button on the menu page and see if that gives you the route you want. Sometimes it comes up after trying that detour button more than once.
Other than that, adding more waypoints are the way to go.
Another option is to hit the detour button on the menu page and see if that gives you the route you want.
I guess there is a limit to how many detours it will give you (?) (Other than 'all possible'?) Depending on model?
As steted in my first post, I have tried shorter distance and the route was not acceptable.
You CANNOT add way points in Google Maps when choosing directions by entering two addresses.
Try something that's deigned to work with Garmin, like say... BaseCamp perhaps...
There are 2 I have heard about ... GMapToGpx is a freeware browser plugin, Tyre is an application program that you have to purchase. You can Google them if you want more info. I have not used Tyre, but I have played around with GMapToGPX. I got it to work, but didn't see enough value in messing with it to keep it. Mapquest works without a plugin, so why mess with Google maps?
Edit: I see Tyre has changed the website so if you Google it, search for TyreToTravel.
This isn't quite true. You can add additional destinations to a Google route (they become Destination C, Destination D, etc.) You can then move them up into the correct sequence of your route (just grab on the the C or D and drag it up). This creates a multi point route with the intermediate points effectively serving as waypoints.
You can also grab a road segment on your route and drag it to another spot and drop it, changing the route. This is called "rubber banding". If you right click on the dot you moved, you get a menu and can select "Change this point to a destination". Again, doing this makes it a waypoint in your route.
Many thanks for the suggestions.
I'll give a look at GMapToGpx and Mapquest, although I have a lingering bad memory with Mapquest.
Years ago before owning a GPS I had a bad experience with Mapquest directions. Totally wrong directions that took me an hour out of the way. Stopped in a firehouse to get directions and the fireman asked me did you get your directions from Mapquest, I replied "yes", he informed me I was not the first with getting wrong directions.
I'll also toy some more with Google Destination C&D and perhaps the rubber banding technique.
I'm not very fond of Basecamp, learning curve is quite steep.
If you try Mapquest again, you need to use the same techniques for waypoints that I described for Google maps. You can add and move destinations (called Stops in Mapquest) and/or rubberband the route. When you use the rubber-band method, right click on the point and select "Make it a Route Stop". If you fail to do this step, it will not transfer as a waypoint.
I have tried many routing systems and route transfer methods, using Google maps, Mapquest, Delorme Street Atlas USA, Mapsource, BaseCamp, MS Streets & Trips. With all of them, you need to check the suggested routes carefully and add enough waypoints to insure the route you want. You also need to make sure that the routing preferences on the mapping program match as close as possible the preferences you have on your nuvi (such as shortest/fastest, avoids, etc.)
In general, using a reasonable number of waypoints, I have been able to sucessfully transfer and preserve routes from all these programs.
I find it quite easy... worth the effort.
On my last planning for a trip to Ohio from NM I used Mapquest and chose the suggested route and downloaded it to my Garmin. Then as an alternative I chose Mapquest's second choice for the trip, which was a different, but longer route. Lo and behold when I checked my nuvi 3590 both routes were the same. Watch out, I guess you have to add waypoints (which I have not figured out yet during my learning curve for my GPS).
ChefDon16, route transfer to a nuvi only transfers the specific route points: start point, end point and explicitly set waypoints. On import, the nuvi recalculates the route preserving these points, but using its own routing algorithm and preference settings. That is why you need to match the routing preferences and include enough waypoints to preserve the original route. The more waypoints you have, the more likely you will get the same results on the nuvi that you got in the mapping program. So the discrepancy you experienced with the Mapquest route is not unusual and depending on the nature of the route, you can get the same problems with any of the mapping programs.
Some of the older nuvi's (I think it was the 7x0 series) would actually import and preserve route shaping from the Mapsource program (like Garmin's Zumo series does) and not recalculate on import. This only worked with Mapsource, not with Mapquest, Google maps or any of the other mapping programs. Also, while navigating, if you strayed from your route causing the nuvi to recalculate, you would lose all of the route shaping information for the entire route.
As I said in the earlier post, the secret to successful route import is to include a sufficient number of explicit waypoints.
This is something from a old post http://www.poi-factory.com/node/34762
This is something I made a copy of in case I ever needed it.Not sure where it came from now.
How to Transfer Google routes to GPS
1•Click the "My Maps" tab in Google Maps. Choose "Create new map" or, if you have no existing maps, choose "Get Started." If you see a log-in screen, create a free Google account by choosing "Create an account now" and following the online instructions. After you are logged in to Google, enter a name for the new map in the "Title" field and a description in the "Description" field. Choose to have this map "Unlisted" (private) or "Public" (available to everyone). Click "Save."
2.Locate placemarks on the new map. For example, if you were planning a wedding, you would want to create a route to all the locations for the wedding guests by creating placemarks for the ceremony, photo session and reception. Click the blue balloon on the top of the map (the placemark) and move the mouse to the first location. Click again to lock the placemark on the map. A title and description window will open; add these fields and press "Save." Continue with this method and position the rest of the placemarks. Each placemark you add will show on the left side of the map.
3.Use the Google line tool to draw the selected route. Click the icon above the map that looks like a jagged line; your cursor will change to a large "X." Click below the first placemark to begin drawing the route and click the mouse at each intersection. Each click of the mouse will leave a route box. Click the final route box and open the edit window. Name the map route in the "Title" field. Click "Done" on the left to save the map with the new route.
4.Click the "Link" icon on the top right of the map. Right-click on the now visible HTML address and select "Copy" from the list of options. Open a new browser window and go to TakItWithMe http://www.takitwithme.com/ . In the "Paste in Your Google My Maps URL" field, right-click and choose "Paste" to enter the link you just copied from Google Maps. Click "Load my map," and the newly created map with routes and placemarks will show in the window.
5.Plug the GPS into the computer using the communication cable (USB cable) and power on the GPS. If the GPS is a Garmin, and you have not installed the Garmin plug-in, a prompt to install it will show. When TakItWithMe requests authorization to contact the GPS, choose "Yes." When the upload is complete, the placemarks you created in Google Maps will be available as new waypoints in the GPS waypoint menu. The routes you created will be available as new routes in the GPS route menu.
6.Select "Download GPX" if the GPS is not a Garmin. GPX is a standard GPS exchange format for waypoints, routes or tracks and is compatible with many GPS devices and software. Choose "Save to Disk" and use the GPS software to upload the GPX file. Like the Garmin, the placemarks you created in Google Maps will be available as new waypoints in the GPS menu, and the routes will be available as new routes in the
GPS route menu.
I've tried several of the methods described without much luck. I think I'll just use Basecamp and concentrate on learning to use that program to create routes.
I appreciate all the responses suggestions made.
Thanks everyone for all your suggestions and links. Soooooo much still to learn. Thanks to POI-Factory for being here to help us all.
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