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I am new to Garmin GPS. This morning I was driving to a programmed Destination when the male voice instructed me to make a left hand turn and then immediately a right hand turn. If I had done that, I would have driven into the grassy area of a local school. The right turn I should really be taking was 75 m away! This had happened to me with TomToms also.

Mind you, Garmin did get it right yesterday with its "make a left hand turn and then immediately a right hand turn."

I've read of horror stories of drivers following GPS instructions to the T and ended up falling into a river, a dead end road, one way street going the other way.

Lastly, the 2013 map update showed a Canadian Tire store still existing when it had been taken over by the YMCA some 10 years ago.

As someone warned, pay attention to the actual speed limit posted rather than what Garmin says on screen.

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withashout wrote:

I am new to Garmin GPS. This morning I was driving to a programmed Destination when the male voice instructed me to make a left hand turn and then immediately a right hand turn. If I had done that, I would have driven into the grassy area of a local school. The right turn I should really be taking was 75 m away! This had happened to me with TomToms also.

Mind you, Garmin did get it right yesterday with its "make a left hand turn and then immediately a right hand turn."

I've read of horror stories of drivers following GPS instructions to the T and ended up falling into a river, a dead end road, one way street going the other way.

Lastly, the 2013 map update showed a Canadian Tire store still existing when it had been taken over by the YMCA some 10 years ago.

As someone warned, pay attention to the actual speed limit posted rather than what Garmin says on screen.

"make a left hand turn and then immediately a right hand turn."

I have the same problems with my 2350LMT, sometimes that right hand turn, turns into the 2nd right hand turn and not the first right hand turn.

Need to look at map

I think this can be one of the more frustrating things about using a GPS. When I am unfamiliar with th area (i.e. when I need a GPS) and the voice is telling me to turn but I don't know that it is really time to turn. What I have learned to do is to look at the map and see how many streets there are before the one I am to turn on. If traffic is heavy, however, it is hard to do that.

This suggests an opportunity for improvement. If the voice was to say to turn at the next light, that would be far better. If it said something like "you should see xxx two streets ahead on the right" it woud be far better.

The "turn now" messages when you are still several streets away are an opportunity for a problem.

Jim

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A GPS device is a tool to ASSIST with navigation.

Never treat it like an autopilot.

And above all else, NEVER forget to use that thing between your ears.

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Motorcycle Mama wrote:

A GPS device is a tool to ASSIST with navigation.

Never treat it like an autopilot.

And above all else, NEVER forget to use that thing between your ears.

many many thumbs up

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. Nuvi 2460LMT, Zumo 550, Beltronics Pro 500 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N (Garmin) built into my Jeep. .

I believe Garmin and TomTom

I believe Garmin and TomTom will not accept responsibility if you should happen to follow their instructions "literally" and end up in an accident.

@withashout

withashout wrote:

I am new to Garmin GPS. This morning I was driving to a programmed Destination when the male voice instructed me to make a left hand turn and then immediately a right hand turn. If I had done that,

Did the unit have displayed the feet left before making the turn?

next Darwin Award winner?

I used Nuvi 650 and 770. Never heard word "immediately" during navigation. When there is next turn in distance so short that Nuvi can't play whole message it says something like: "in (distance) turn right than turn left".

Reading posts from Withashout I'm getting impression that instead of buying GPS he should invest in private driver. This will increase his chances of survival on the roads. Or in short time we wiil read again about one more car in ravine, lake on on train tracks.

Third rail

grzesja wrote:

Or in short time we wiil read again about one more car in ravine, lake on on train tracks.

On Long Island we have more railroad crossings than anywhere, and more GPS users have turned onto the tracks. The only thing is, there is a third rail with 750 volts of power and this can set the car on fire!

dobs108 shock

You must be psychic

grzesja wrote:

Reading posts from Withashout I'm getting impression that instead of buying GPS he should invest in private driver. This will increase his chances of survival on the roads.

I've been thinking the same thing. High five! mrgreen

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nüvi 3790T | nüvi 775T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

review route

I always review my route before taking off. I want to understand where I am going, when turns should happen, distances. Every once in a while, I find some odd routing, and then I know what to do when it happens.

I never just punch in a destination and go without a review.

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___________________ Garmin 2455, 855, Oregon 550t

Maybe...

rigel wrote:

I always review my route before taking off. I want to understand where I am going, when turns should happen, distances. Every once in a while, I find some odd routing, and then I know what to do when it happens.

I never just punch in a destination and go without a review.

Completely agree that you should review your routes before you go but I normally don't do that. I do trust my Garmin but I don't listen to it blindly. Just use common sense when listening.

Just wondering what model is withashout using. Sounds like a hand me down with the "make a left hand turn and then immediately a right hand turn." Don't newer models all have street names now. Those olders directions w/o street names may be confusing for new users but understanding how the GPS gives direction is a learning curve as well.

@LongAce

If you are using voice without TTS capability then it doesn't read street names but says only to turn left or right. Even in newest units. And if you look through choice of voices there is many without TTS. So it's possible that he can hear no street names. Or he just used simplification.

On the other hand every unit shows picture with turns clearly marked on incoming streets.

What worries me is that he seems to be totally dependand on GPS and is hanging on every word unit says instead of using it as it was intended: as fancy map that helps to find right way to destination. This is very distracting and really can make him get into accident when driving.

maps

Don't blame the GPS, blame the people that do the mapping software.

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Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong.

exactly

rigel wrote:

I always review my route before taking off. I want to understand where I am going, when turns should happen, distances. Every once in a while, I find some odd routing, and then I know what to do when it happens.

I never just punch in a destination and go without a review.

I do this nearly all the time, I check how my MS Streets and Trips program would take me so I can see the overall view of the route as well as print a map or two of the overall picture. I love using the GPS but sometimes technology can get funky and I like to have a back up.

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. Nuvi 2460LMT, Zumo 550, Beltronics Pro 500 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N (Garmin) built into my Jeep. .

I've used Garmin units for

I've used Garmin units for years. I recently installed an in dash navigation unit. The unit uses Primo iGO (Navteq maps). The unit will tell you to turn and give you the street name. When you're close to the turn it will sometime say something like turn right immediately after the gas station.

There is some question if the people who turned onto the LIRR tracks did so as a result of listening to their GPS.

And your local transportation depts.

Don B wrote:

Don't blame the GPS, blame the people that do the mapping software.

And your local transportation depts. for not updateing any changes/mistakes.

But it scarey knowing there are millions out there who will turn when told too. And they reproduce in great numbers, since we have very limited natural selection to weed them out in modern times, lol

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Cain versus Unable 2012

+1

Juggernaut wrote:
grzesja wrote:

Reading posts from Withashout I'm getting impression that instead of buying GPS he should invest in private driver. This will increase his chances of survival on the roads.

I've been thinking the same thing. High five! mrgreen

+1

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

The Garmin instructions that

The Garmin instructions that speak a left then right is a great tool since it tells you which lane(for multi-lane) you should be in and it it notifying you that you should take the "next" right.

If you follow your GPS to the "T" than you will get in trouble.

This post reminds of the Allstate mayhem commercial with the GPS.

Like a previous user post stated, please use your brains since no device is perfect.

Comedy skit

gadget_man wrote:

The Garmin instructions that speak a left then right is a great tool since it tells you which lane(for multi-lane) you should be in and it it notifying you that you should take the "next" right.

If you follow your GPS to the "T" than you will get in trouble.

This post reminds of the Allstate mayhem commercial with the GPS.

Like a previous user post stated, please use your brains since no device is perfect.

Saw a comedy skit on a show with Betty White. Old man drives onto a boardwalk at a beach. Gets out, puts on his dark glasses, grabs his red cane with a white tip and his GPS. He then proceeds to walk towards the ocean while the GPS is talking to him. Bystanders reactions were very funny.

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

Anyone

that doesn't use their brain along with their technology deserves to succumb to the digital age version of natural selection.

Plus One

gadget_man wrote:

The Garmin instructions that speak a left then right is a great tool since it tells you which lane(for multi-lane) you should be in and it it notifying you that you should take the "next" right..

My unit has never said immediately.
"Turn left on Main Street, then turn right."
After the turn she says
"In ** feet, turn right on first avenue"

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1490LMT 1450LMT 295w

Satellites

You can't just rely on the GPS. I know that on my nuvi 3590 my coordinates and altitude change all the time when I am in a stationary position. Contacted Garmin and the said it was because of what stattelites were being accessed. So if the coordinates for your GPS keep changing you can not rely on the GPS to the "T".

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ChefDon

Very interesting

spokybob wrote:
gadget_man wrote:

The Garmin instructions that speak a left then right is a great tool since it tells you which lane(for multi-lane) you should be in and it it notifying you that you should take the "next" right..

My unit has never said immediately.
"Turn left on Main Street, then turn right."
After the turn she says
"In ** feet, turn right on first avenue"

Interesting. There must be differences between nuvi lines. My nuvi 855 frequently tells me to "turn right on xxxxxxxx Blvd, then turn left." Then after the right turn, I get a nearly immediate "in xx feet, turn left on xxxx Street."

Sorry, but those morons

Sorry, but those morons deserve in a ditch.

My 40 has

spokybob wrote:
gadget_man wrote:

The Garmin instructions that speak a left then right is a great tool since it tells you which lane(for multi-lane) you should be in and it it notifying you that you should take the "next" right..

My unit has never said immediately.
"Turn left on Main Street, then turn right."
After the turn she says
"In ** feet, turn right on first avenue"

My '40 says this when I'm close to the turn. I know then to switch to the right lane as soon as I make the left.

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

FWIW

I had the same issues with the 50LM when I 1st got it last month, I did an update right out of the box.
I did as some suggested, a reset and map reload, with no change in it's operation.
Then I did another update after the Garmin Basecamp program told me I had updates available. After that update, the unit showed City Nav was installed and the unit's been fine ever since.

Now with a bit more experience and understanding under my belt, I suspect City Nav was never installed (or updated during the first update).

When it comes to bad drivers, I have very little patience and my saying is quickly becoming "I don't have road rage, I just don't like idiots".
But give some the benefit of the doubt folks or you might get the reputation of being one rough crowd! razz razz

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Nuvi 50LM

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