Red Light Cameras

 

Red light cameras are springing up all over. Too bad they have little positive impact on safety. But, in these tough economic times they are certainly a way around "raising taxes". Having been caught in traffic that forces one to get stuck at the edge of an intersection I and catching the cameras eye - I can't say I condone the red light runners, but I can't see that the devices are any more than taxation without representation via. high tech piracy. evil

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Red light Cameras

Anyone know how many Cameras are in the LA area. I am temporally in the area and wow they are everywhere. I hate them. You have to slam on the brakes here and I can not wait to get rear ended. They hardly seem fair.

REd Light Cameras

Just wait until the brain implants that will have a ticket sent to you for THINKING about running a red light.

1984 WAS some years ago, you know!

Fred

Be careful at the

Be careful at the intersections with redlight cameras. There are redlight cameras here in the Phoenix area that also have speed cameras at the intersections. When the light turns yellow and the drivers jump on the gas to beat the redlight wind up getting a speeding ticket instead. They got this all figured out. They'll get you (your money) one way or the other.

Oh, and before someone else spouts it off..... "drive the speed the limit and pay attention to the lights and you will have nothing to worry about".

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OK.....so where the heck am I?

REALLY!

Sometimes it does not make any difference how much attention you pay to the lights. There are many situations that can get you a ticket that have nothing to do with paying attention!

Simple to answer

mtunender wrote:

Anyone know how many Cameras are in the LA area. I am temporally in the area and wow they are everywhere. I hate them. You have to slam on the brakes here and I can not wait to get rear ended. They hardly seem fair.

Just go to your POI redlight and speed camera files while in that area. Each file will show the 50 closest cameras to your location.

Cameras in Florida

The Gov signed the bill making cameras legal in Florida. A lot of countys were waiting for this to happen. They didn't want to waste money only to take them down. I can forsee a LOT more cameras being installed now. (more cameras, more money) And hopefully, more lives saved.

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Really

Say What!!!! surprised

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Timantide wrote:

The Gov signed the bill making cameras legal in Florida.

goochj wrote:

I can't see that the devices are any more than taxation without representation via. high tech piracy. evil

Those sad people in the state of Florida who are not represented. If only they were able to vote on people to send to the state legislature who send the bills to the governor. Also very sad that they aren't able to vote for the governor who signs the bills. It is truly a travesty that the people of Florida are not represented. rolleyes rolleyes

hah...

They're represented...they just don't speak up!

pathetic...

This is really bad...there are MORE accidents (rear end collisions) due to these red light cameras...speed cameras at intersections are simply not fair!

agreed...

Not fair...in Baltimore/DC area, we have them everywhere...what a PITA!

Great addition to GPS - Red light & speed camera locations

I'm just happy that there are ways to load your GPS RED light camera locations, so whether one drives with care or not, we will definitely save some money by knowing about them ! Most of the people don't jump red lights because we wanted to smile

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Nassau County, NY

Here in Nassau County, Long Island they were all gung ho about how the county was going to roll out fifty cameras after pressing the legislature for years for the permission to do it. As it is now, we have twenty six and no word on any more coming. The funny thing is two of the first they installed at very bad intersection had to be removed because they were found to be in the jurisdiction of villages, not the county. The villages would have gotten the money not the county (which proves after all that it is about money not safety since these "dangerous" intersection are now unguarded).

To be honest, I have mixed feelings about RLC's. The other day I observed a violation that was so blatant that I wished there had been a camera in place at the intersection. It was a good three seconds after turning red that a car next to me just decided to keep going and blow through two red lights in tandem. Traffic was already starting to move from the green phase. The idiot never slowed or tapped the brakes.

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But fewer..

Bone Crusher wrote:

This is really bad...there are MORE accidents (rear end collisions) due to these red light cameras...speed cameras at intersections are simply not fair!

But there are usually fewer t-bone accidents and the cost of injuries usually goes down.

Hmmm, maybe... naah, forget it

pkdmslf wrote:

Be careful at the intersections with redlight cameras. There are redlight cameras here in the Phoenix area that also have speed cameras at the intersections. When the light turns yellow and the drivers jump on the gas to beat the redlight wind up getting a speeding ticket instead. They got this all figured out. They'll get you (your money) one way or the other.

Not that I haven't done this myself, but when you think about it, from a safety perspective, speed cameras at intersections are a little easier to defend as safety devices than red light cameras. Because speeding up when the light turns yellow does cause bad accidents, both rear-end and t-bone. The great majority of red light camera infractions are of the right-turn-on-red or stop-line variety which, yes, do cause accidents occasionally, but I'd bet they don't injure or kill people nearly as often as speeding up to beat the light. But then, if governments get away with this, they get away with speed camera enforcement generally, and pretty soon, you've got a $150 ticket and points every time your speed creeps up to 38 mph in a 35 mph zone, and we're right back to the main issue of these devices being used not to improve traffic safety primarily but to raise hidden taxes. So forget it!

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I hope you didn't mean quite this

dagarmin wrote:

... But then, if governments get away with this, they get away with speed camera enforcement generally ...

I hope the issue is not on whether governments should ENFORCE laws, but rather that you do not agree with cameras as the proper way to do so.

If the citizenry gets to the point of thinking that governments should not enforce laws (or at least not apply them to me), then we are really in trouble of losing our stature as the number one nation in the world.

Even worse

In California. . the Nanny state of the nation, they have found another way to boost revenue by placing motion activated video cameras at the corners of Red Light Camera intersections to catch you if you do less than a full stop on a right turn. . the fine is exactly the same for a rolling stop as it is for a full blown red light violation. Ahhhh. . Government

Phoenix Cameras

I heard a rumor that the cameras were being removed in the Phoenix area (or maybe AZ) because of so much public outcry. Is there any truth to this??

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see here

agr8skp wrote:

I heard a rumor that the cameras were being removed in the Phoenix area (or maybe AZ) because of so much public outcry. Is there any truth to this??

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/29013

and also here
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/29485

some have already been removed in Phoenix

agr8skp wrote:

I heard a rumor that the cameras were being removed in the Phoenix area (or maybe AZ) because of so much public outcry. Is there any truth to this??

I drove through the Phoenix area on Saturday and noticed that a number of the speed camera locations where I was warned by my GPS have already been removed on the 101 loop and I10E freeways.

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AZ Freeway Cameras

There was an article in the Az Republic over the weekend that Az DPS is looking at taking over the speed cameras on the freeways. They have notified Redflex that they will not be renewing the contract, but looks like maybe the cameras will stay and now under the direct control of the state.

Errors in the camera file?

rjrsw wrote:
agr8skp wrote:

I heard a rumor that the cameras were being removed in the Phoenix area (or maybe AZ) because of so much public outcry. Is there any truth to this??

I drove through the Phoenix area on Saturday and noticed that a number of the speed camera locations where I was warned by my GPS have already been removed on the 101 loop and I10E freeways.

I have the camera file on my 750 and noticed many times it warns of speed cameras in places where they are not installed and never have been. Maybe a mobile unit was there at the time it was reported.

Dubuque Iowa

While passing through recently on US 61, I was a victim of a very quick yellow. I was "out" by about 10 feet when the light turned red. I checked later and was happy to discover that Dubuque is not on the red light list.

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