Standalong GPS or In car

 

Hello All,
I am a new member in this forum. I have been using GPSs for a few years now. I have seen the progression of GPSs from expensive, basic navigation devices to having more and more features at fraction of the cost.

Now I am in market for another GPS and wondering if buying a stand alone GPS is a smart way to go or ifI should get an in-car GPS. Considering the way technology is evolving, portable GPSes will become a thing of the past, I think.

Any suggestions/ feedback on what I should do.

thanks.

Stand Alone

My preference is a stand alone unit. You can take it with you when you travel in another one of your family's or friend's vehicles & you can take it with you and use it on vacation in rental vehicles.

You can also easily and cheaply upgrade the unit in several years when your desire and the technology evolves. Hard to do with a built in unit.

For my money, a stand alone is a better buy.

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Nuvi 2595LMT, Nuvi 1490T, Nuvi 260, GPSMAP 195

Stand alone

I am for stand alone. And, you said it yourself, when you mentioned the "progression of GPSs". With the in-car GPS, you are stuck with the features present at the time the car was made. You will miss out on new features that come about with new technologies. Buy a standalone device, they are less costly, and easily transferable to other vehicle. When you see a new feature in a new model GPS, you can give the old one away to someone and buy the latest and the greatest. With onboard GPS, I imagine you have to trade in your car in order to get a new GPS.

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Unless you are the lead sled dog, the view never changes. I is retard... every day is Saturday! I still own the StreetPilot c340, and the Garmin Nuvi 765t, but upgraded to the NO "recalculating", 3590 LMT.

Bigger screens? Oh yea!

But, as with the other posters, I prefer the stand-alone for the same reasons. Until the time comes when all GPS' can be flashed with new FW, and maps cheaply, I'll stay my course with my lone unit. The stand-alone's are far cheaper as well.

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I would be very surprised

if anyone here with significant use experience would recommend an in-dash unit vs. standalone. There have been a few comments in other threads here about the choice so you may try a search for the same topic.

For an in-dash unit, which I understand can run upwards of $2,000, the ability to upgrade at will with standalone units would get you many units for that total cost. I've even foolishly upgraded to a newer model that I've decided was overpriced, but even at that, I've invested less than $1,000 total for 3 GPSrs.

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NEOhioGuy - Garmin 2639, MIO Knight Rider

Superb integration v flexibility

The factory nav on the Mini Cooper is pretty impressive, superbly integrated into the car and the audio system. But then it should be for the price!

How do I add POIs for In-N-Out Burger to the Mini system?

How do I update the red light camera list for the Mini system?

How do I update the maps for the Mini system?

Same answer for all three, at least for me -- Garmin, a stand-alone unit.

A few weeks ago, putting gas in the car, a gal at the next pump asked for directions. I pulled the GPS out of the car and showed her on the screen where she needed to go.

More difficult with an integrated unit!

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Nuvi 2460, 680, DATUM Tymserve 2100, Trimble Thunderbolt, Ham radio, Macintosh, Linux, Windows

LOL!

I've done the same thing for tourists; pull the GPS out, get the address, and route them. They always say, "I have to get me one of those!" Then Jill starts to speak, and they're agog.

I always have to ask if they still want to use a paper map... razz

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Stand Alone for Me -

I prefer a stand alone device. Not only can you take it with you when you go for a "walk" but it can be taken into the house so it can be upgraded on or with your computer. Try that with a factory installed unit.

Yep, it's stand alone for me.

Standalone for me. 1 Cheaper

Standalone for me.

1 Cheaper than in dash
2 More functionality
3 Mobility to other cars
4 Custom POI's and the list goes on

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John B - Garmin 765T

Stand Alone only

IMHO a stand alone unit is the only way to go. I can't see paying the premium car manufacturer's want, the outrageous price for updates and losing the flexibility when I have to rent a car.

That's my .02.

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Nuvi 360, OS X Lion 10.7

stand alone

I agree with the rest, I would only consider a stand alone. You can take it wherever you go. You also can choose exactly which features you want, and choose by brand and model reputation when buying the unit.

Stand alone. They are

Stand alone. They are cheaper. And you can get as big screen as you want. They are readily available upto 7". If you want bigger, get a tablet PC. Get a good mount and get it connected via bluetooth to Bluetooth GPS.

Same here

I am for stand-alone as well, but I have to admit that it has to be (ugly) mounted and causes lots of nuisance on frequent-stop trip for bring it with me (to avoid thief).

Stand Alone

for me. One of the big attractions of the standalone was that my Honda Civic has an auxiliary jack so I can play music and directions through my car audio system. I also use it for bluetooth. If I couldn't do this, I would not be as excited.

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Nuvi 760 Nuvi 2598 LMT Nuvi 3597 LMT Garmin Streetpilot Onboard for iPhone

Standalone GPS or In-Car

Be sure and look at touch-screen and voice command and response in a portable GPS unit. If computers are any indication (and a GPS is a computer) portables will become cheaper and have more functionality and features in shorter periods of time than you can get in in-car units (assuming that you don't trade in your vehicle every 6 months or so). As stated prior, until the in-car units can be firmware and map updatable easliy and quickly, portables are the only way to go.

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DeLorme PN-40 (hand-held); LT-40 (laptop); Garmin C330

another vote for stand alone!

Recently had the chance to get in-car Nav system and opted NO! My portable Garmin units are cheaper, more customizable and simple to update/upgrade. I'll have a car for 5+ years and the last thing I'd want is an outdated Nav system.

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non-native nutmegger

Standalone

I prefer the stand alone for the same reasons listed here in the forum. The portability of being able to use it in more than the vehicle it was purchased for.

Standalone GPS

For me the choice is clear standalone GPS. I can always buy the latest model with the coolest features. A built in... it is what it was when you first bought it.

One Reason Why Someone Would Buy A In Dash Unit..!

There's only one reason why someone would purchase a "In Dash" unit.. it's because they didn't take the good advice given here by all the posters who have responded to your question.

If you want my answer to your question, just look at my "name" and "e-mail" address. It tells it all.

Nuvi1300WTGPS

Nuvi1300WTGPS@Gmail.com

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I'm not really lost.... just temporarily misplaced!

Stand alone

With Garmin stand alone you can update your maps for between $29. & $60. If you have an in-dash it can cost you close to $300 for the disc.
Not hard to figure witch is the better deal.

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Standalone vs In-car

Stanalones are here to stay they will evolve and intergrate to become total personal communincation devices. Far beyond the static devices loaded into the dashes of automobiles.

This evolution will be very interesting! Stay tuned the future is now !!

Besides,in dash GPS models do not load custom POI's very well.

Have a great Week-End !

rascal8

Another vote for a stand

Another vote for a stand alone...

I think other posters have covered the reasoning...cost, usability, upgradability etc...

Personally, I would never give a second thought to an optional built-in gps on any car purchase.

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Nuvi 350 Born Oct 07 - Nuvi 660 Unit #2 (re)Born Sept 08 - Nuvi 360(Gift to 'the chick' yet maintained by myself) Born July 08

Stand alone all the way!

Stand alone all the way!

Definitely stand-alone

I bought an in-dash unit in my last car and found it wasn't worth the price. The DVD is expensive to update (about $150 if I am correct) and you have no portability. Also they become outdated quickly. I bought mine in my 2005 Odyssey and it didn't have text to speech and was state of the art back then. Now even the lowest models have TTS

Another vote for stand alone

I love my stand alone for alot of the reasons listed previously. Just the portibility alone is worth it!

Standalone

The gadget factor for in-dash units is high. Some offer unique features, like nice and big screens that can be used as video screens (when parked), sound system integration, backing camera, car command center, etc.

BUT they charge so much for them, it's unbelievable. Mitsubishi was asking 3125$C for the "navigation system" in an Outlander 2009.

For that money, I'll get myself a nice big Standalone GPS, a pretty good laptop, a portable DVD player and still have some change to spare.

Simon

Stand alone gps devices for

Stand alone gps devices for all the reasons enumerated above.

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“It’s their world. We’re just living in it.”

No question.

Stand alone!!!!!!!

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First of all - let's be realistic. Most people that opt for stand alone have never had a built-in unit. I have had both, and except for the cost, I prefer the built-in any day. I will say that I was fortunate that I had one in a Honda (which is about the best on the market). Their built-in units for all of their product line (Honda/Lexus) are VERY good units. They are, however, expensive initially, and expensive for upgrade map DVDs. Were it not for cost, I would only have built-in units. I currently have a 2010 Ford, which has the Sync 3.0 system in it (with a GPS module). Without a large screen (to watch your progress to a destination), you can still tell it where you want to go, and it will take you there. Thus far, it has been extremely accurate.....

Joel

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"Sometimes, when I look at my children, I wish I had remained a virgin". Lillian Carter (Mother of Jimmy Carter)

I too have used both

PaintballCFO wrote:

First of all - let's be realistic. Most people that opt for stand alone have never had a built-in unit. I have had both, and except for the cost, I prefer the built-in any day.

Joel

However I disagree with the preference for the built-in. The one I used on a top-of-the-line luxury car was very poorly positioned (below the radio controls and just above the ash tray and cup holders on the center console) and the lock-out feature prevented any changes when moving. While on long trips, the only way you could search for a stop was to stop the vehicle and then ask it to find an intermediate location. The voice response in the 885 handles this without having to press buttons, just listen for the prompts.

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200 or 2000

Not much a choice to me. Buy a limited in car model which is very expensive, hard or impossible to upgrade, add POIs, etc or buy an inexpensive portable unit with more features, capabilities.

There are only two nice things I can think of with the in car model: dead reckoning capability and a bit harder to steal or lose. Hard for me to part with serious money with only two benefits and many negatives beyond just the cost.

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___________________ Garmin 2455, 855, Oregon 550t

Kinda obvious

PaintballCFO wrote:

... Were it not for cost, I would only have built-in units.

I'd venture a guess and say that if, or more likely when built in GPS units can be had, factory installed for $200 the opinion to this question will quickly change. Why? Because of all the benefits of the built in and the hassle of carrying around the stand alone, the extra cords, etc. etc. Plus they'll be in nearly every vehicle so the benefit of being able to take it with you to use in friends or family's cars or in rentals will be gone too.

Until built in units are $200 and in every vehicle, stand alones are the way to go.

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Nuvi 2595LMT, Nuvi 1490T, Nuvi 260, GPSMAP 195

Stand Alone for me

I agree with the vast majority here.

Stand alone is the better choice.

Something else to consider is the
"Pedestrian Mode" of many of the new models, and even of you don't have that mode, you can still take your handheld with for a walk around town.

My wife took her nuvi 780 to Greece and Turkey with her this past summer and it helped her find the metro stations and Ferry dock, and she could always show the cab driver the way back to her hotel.

It will show you POI's such as restaurants to eat at, libraries, museums etc.

I know it costs a ton of cash to get your hands on the update DVD's for the built-in models.

I can buy a new stand alone every couple of years and get the newest technology, newest maps and still not come close to the cost of a built-in model.

Now... I admit..if I was rich.... I would have Both.

Stand alone for now. If the

Stand alone for now. If the in-car version ever stops being a pure profit maker and is priced fairly, I would have an in-car version.

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(formerly known as condump) RV 770 LMT-S, Nuvi2797LMT, Nuvi765T

Stand Alone

I have to agree with the majority that stand alone is the way to go for most people. What I really wish though is that there could be a standard mount for all GPS's and that the mount would be built in to all new cars. That would eliminate all the cables and provide the interface to the audio, but you could still go out and buy the stand-alone unit that fits your needs.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

Flexibility

You will have a lot more flexibility with a stand alone. ... plus, as a rule, they work much better.

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Garmin Nuvi 750 & c530 with RT's vol. mod., Vulcan Nomad

Portable over Indash

I've been using my Nuvi 660 for over two years now in my POV and in my company vehicle. I have a mount in both and only need one unit. My wife's Acura has an indash unit. The Nuvi is far superior to the Acura's indash unit. Yesterday I received a flyer from Acura to purchase a map update for $185! You can get maps for life from Garmin for under $120. The Nuvi is so much easier to use then the indash and the bluetooth connects easily to my smartphone with full access to the address book. I could go on and on but by far the portable unit is definitely a better choice.

Stand Alone Unit

I can update the POI as often as I want to smile

Standalone!

I prefer the standalone as do most folks here but perhaps we are biased.
Members of poi-factory are in tune with upgrades and tweaks such as poi's and as such find great satisfaction in having this sort of control over our units.

For many folks, they turn on a GPSr, do minimal setting or saving and turn it off until the next time they need it. For that population the convenience of an in-dash unit may be higher.

I am forever checking poi-factory, tweaking the unit and upgrading. An in-dash unit would be more hands-off or more challenging to do these things to.

The cost of an integrated unit is quite high. Unfortunately with the bundles on new vehicles, you may be forced to buy the in-dash navigation to get the rear DVD option for your kids (or other upgrades). That becomes an expensive nut to crack.

Having more than one vehicle and even the occasional rental car or drive with a friend makes the portability and accessibility of a stand-alone unit more practical.

Just my thoughts...
Rob

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Maps -> Wife -> Garmin 12XL -> StreetPilot 2610 -> Nuvi 660 (blown speaker) -> Nuvi 3790LMT

Hand held or in car gps

calvin888 wrote:

I am for stand-alone as well, but I have to admit that it has to be (ugly) mounted and causes lots of nuisance on frequent-stop trip for bring it with me (to avoid thief).

Look at it another way. You could come out and find half your dash missing when they steel your bilt in GPS. I will stay with the hand held one and take it with me.

ohwogo nuvi 750

Built-ins...

needfreemembership wrote:

Hello All,
I am a new member in this forum. I have been using GPSs for a few years now. I have seen the progression of GPSs from expensive, basic navigation devices to having more and more features at fraction of the cost.

Now I am in market for another GPS and wondering if buying a stand alone GPS is a smart way to go or ifI should get an in-car GPS. Considering the way technology is evolving, portable GPSes will become a thing of the past, I think.

Any suggestions/ feedback on what I should do.

thanks.

Just small question about this personalized stuff people usually have on their units. You know, like favorites addresses, poi locations, sometimes pictures or music. What about it? Even if there will be option of holding them on external storage of some type it is still something to carry.
And still I prefer to do any updates by myself in my home than going every time to dealership or bring laptop to car to do update. Especially that map updates aren't that quick things.
And placement of those built-in units is rather irritating. I keep my unit in low left corner of my windshield so it's easy to look at it without turning your head to look at central console. Especially in the city during rush hour.

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ohwogo wrote:
calvin888 wrote:

I am for stand-alone as well, but I have to admit that it has to be (ugly) mounted and causes lots of nuisance on frequent-stop trip for bring it with me (to avoid thief).

Look at it another way. You could come out and find half your dash missing when they steel your bilt in GPS. I will stay with the hand held one and take it with me.

ohwogo nuvi 750

Where is that going to happen, other than Southside Chicago??

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"Sometimes, when I look at my children, I wish I had remained a virgin". Lillian Carter (Mother of Jimmy Carter)

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Odd - nobody said anything about the Ford Sync 3.0 system........No GPS system (big screen), but door-to-door directions anyway.... Hmmmmm.....

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Perhaps

PaintballCFO wrote:

Odd - nobody said anything about the Ford Sync 3.0 system........No GPS system (big screen), but door-to-door directions anyway.... Hmmmmm.....

No one considered the added cost of maintaining a data plan. I don't carry one of those phones and my preference is to never carry one. I am tied to work enough - I don't need it following me.

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Only one

The only way I'd go is stand-alone... I use the GPS in the car and on the motorcycle. That's why I love my ZUMO!

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a_user wrote:
PaintballCFO wrote:

Odd - nobody said anything about the Ford Sync 3.0 system........No GPS system (big screen), but door-to-door directions anyway.... Hmmmmm.....

No one considered the added cost of maintaining a data plan. I don't carry one of those phones and my preference is to never carry one. I am tied to work enough - I don't need it following me.

Data plan? What data plan? It will use ANY Bluetooth connected cell phone to download the directions (2 minutes on the cell phone for a 600 mile trip), then provides turn-by-turn directions (including street names) to the destination. Even though it's a Microsoft system, it works very well.

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"Sometimes, when I look at my children, I wish I had remained a virgin". Lillian Carter (Mother of Jimmy Carter)

Stand alone for me

needfreemembership wrote:

Hello All,

Any suggestions/ feedback on what I should do.

thanks.

I can take it with me whereever I go, in other cars, walking; I even took it to Italy.

Can't do that with a in-car nav system.

That data plan

PaintballCFO wrote:
a_user wrote:

No one considered the added cost of maintaining a data plan. I don't carry one of those phones and my preference is to never carry one. I am tied to work enough - I don't need it following me.

Data plan? What data plan? It will use ANY Bluetooth connected cell phone to download the directions (2 minutes on the cell phone for a 600 mile trip), then provides turn-by-turn directions (including street names) to the destination. Even though it's a Microsoft system, it works very well.

The car connects to what over Bluetooth? You need a data plan for the phone so it can download the data to be transferred to the car over Bluetooth don't you?

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