Wisconsin police may track people without warrant using GPS
Sun, 05/10/2009 - 11:04am
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Can't do this in Canada... I think this Wisconsin decision might be challenged.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-wi-gps-police,0,58...
" MADISON, Wis. - Wisconsin police can attach GPS to cars to secretly track anybody's movements without obtaining search warrants, an appeals court ruled Thursday. "
Quis custōdiet ipsōs custōdēs?
Quis custōdiet ipsōs custōdēs?
--Roman poet Juvenal
Usually translated, "Who watches the watchers?"
Sounds like the warrantless wiretapping under Bush Admin that's getting lots of flack.
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So what are they doing -
So what are they doing - using the track log after the GPS has been in the car for a while?? Because the GPS is a passive unit and I thought did not send out any trackable signal.
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No, The article is talking
No, The article is talking about the police attaching a GPS to the vehichle that DOES send a trackable signal, not tracking a GPSr that is already mounted in someones car.
you didn't get it right,gps was not a transmitter, was reciever
No, The article is talking about the police attaching a GPS to the vehichle that DOES send a trackable signal, not tracking a GPSr that is already mounted in someones car.
Here is what it said:
The ruling came in a 2003 case involving Michael Sveum, a Madison man who was under investigation for stalking. Police got a warrant to put a GPS on his car and secretly attached it while the vehicle was parked in Sveum's driveway. The device recorded his car's movements for five weeks before police retrieved it and downloaded the information.
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This case wasn't warrant-less, Lets revisit when it is!
Quis custōdiet ipsōs custōdēs?
--Roman poet Juvenal
Usually translated, "Who watches the watchers?"
Sounds like the warrantless wiretapping under Bush Admin that's getting lots of flack.
This wasn't warrant-less, Police got a warrant to put a GPS on his car and secretly attached it while the vehicle was parked in Sveum's driveway.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? How about the judge in Madison,Wisconsin issuing the warrant, the court system and finally a jury of his peers! Please don't tell me you have lost complete faith in your Country.
Bush is gone, time to start hating the new guy!
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This sounds a lot like a boot to me
This sounds like the same assertion that it is okay to boot a car to immobilize it for parking illegally. In the case of a boot, they are holding your car for ransom but not permanently damaging it. In the case of the planted gps, they are placing a gps on your car to spy on you but not permanently damaging your car. Both make a mockery of your individual rights.
the judge said
that the gps wasn't doing anything that a cop watching the car's movements couldn't do. Therefore it was not infringing on the person's rights.
In this particular case, a warrant was issued for placing the gps in the car and later retrieving it. The court later said that the warrant wasn't necessary.
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The court seemed to rule on something they were not asked
Very interesting article. The police DID get a warrant to attach the gps but the court ended up saying it was not needed in their decision. And they also said the gps did not violate 4th Amendment rights becuase there was no "search and siezure" (at least not on the firt warrant; the police got a 2nd one for that).
But the gps log does not prove who was driving the car. He should have argued that fact when he sued about the gps. The 2nd warrant to search his home (that did turn up evidence of stalking) was all based on the movement of the care NOT the suspect.
Oh well. Lazy police work and sloppy judges!
Winston Churchill said, “Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing, after exhausting all other possibilities.”
Other rights
This sounds like the same assertion that it is okay to boot a car to immobilize it for parking illegally. In the case of a boot, they are holding your car for ransom but not permanently damaging it. In the case of the planted gps, they are placing a gps on your car to spy on you but not permanently damaging your car. Both make a mockery of your individual rights.
It is well known that rights of society sometimes preclude individual rights. If this guy was stalking, I'm sure he ought to have been tracked.
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unconstitutional
It should be challenged.
From gps to a human chip
A human biochip is next in line/ or get a gps jammer. : )
Why is it unconstitutional?
Why would it be unconstitutional? This is no different that the police following him in person, no warrant is needed for that purpose. However, if they were to pull the logs from the subjects personal GPS then a warrant would be needed because he/she has the constitutional right to expect the privacy of the information in the GPS logs that the person owns.
GPS Jammer?
A human biochip is next in line/ or get a gps jammer. : )
GPS Jammer,Careful what you ask for, it's just a flip of a switch away!
Biochips, what do you mean next in line,where have you been since 1983? I have no problem with repeat felony offenders being electronically branded.
Please note I said repeat felony offenders, maybe even a three strike type deal as soon as they enter the Penitentiary for the third time.
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cop caught parked while on duty
The Attorney General thanked the New York State Police Community Narcotics .... confirmed Johnson's absence from patrols through the city's new GPS units. He was caught bowling with his son every Saturday during his work shift But no one noticed that Johnson parked his car for three hours
have been recorded by the new units nearly every week since they were installed in November.
The GPS units, which cost $22,000, were installed in every car shortly after another patrol officer, Thomas Disbrow, was caught bowling with his son every Saturday during his work shift. Public Safety Commissioner Wayne Bennett said then that the new units would keep such embarrassing incidents from happening again, since supervisors now know exactly where their officers are at all times.
But no one noticed that Johnson parked his car for three hours or more each Tuesday until it was pointed out by The Gazette.