For those that don't know INRIX is now Garmin's traffic provider for at least the lifetime subscription deal. Has anyone else noticed the difference?
"NOVEMBER 18, 2008
Inrix Pumps Up their Coverage
Inrix is on fire, and provided the world with a little status update and a little bragging in their recent press release. Read it and you'll see that they might just have pretty good right to brag a bit. I liked the "we saved Alabama's traffic alert program" paragraph where the previous traffic provider couldn't deliver accurate data. In steps Inrix, the data is flowing, and boards are lit up 2 weeks later."
Garmin just signed a long extension with NAVTEQ, owner of Traffic.com. this should be a interesting battle!
How do you get the lifetime subscription for my Garmin?
I read the article. Pretty interesting.
For the 7x5 series, does the traffic have anything to do with Inrix?
I didn't see Navteq as one of Inrix's partners.
Using Navteq for the maps and the free lifetime ad supported traffic and yet making the Inrix/Clear Channel $60 lifetime traffic option still available was a smart move.
And they still have a third option with the MSN traffic so they have pretty much covered all the bases with their traffic options.
With these three options they should be able to pretty much satisfy anyone's traffic needs.
Well... it seems that Garmin has abandoned XM Nav Traffic Services. That's what I had on my 2730 using a separate GXM-30 antenna receiver puck.
Not that it was any good anyway... but it was the only service you could get to work no matter where you were since the info was delivered via satellites and not any sort of FM Radio signal.
I bought lifetime MSN services for my nuvi. Will this decision affect me?
Garmin FM Traffic:
"NAVTEQ" Traffic 50 Market Coverage of North America:
Free Ad supported lifetime traffic cannot be purchased separately and only comes free on select new models.
NAVTEQ Traffic provides real-time traffic conditions for 50 metropolitan markets in North America, including Toronto, Canada.
"Clear Channel" 95 Market Coverage of North America with Inrix support:
$60 paid lifetime subscription with no ads from Total Traffic Network from Clear Channel lifetime.
Clear Channel's Total Traffic Network provides real-time traffic conditions for 95 metropolitan markets in North America.
Things to look at before deciding:
Clear Channel's traffic covers almost twice as many markets as Navteq so the free service on some units may be good for some people but not much help to others. I had to go with the Clear Channel $60 lifetime to get coverage in the area where I'm located. It kind of surprised me that Navteq didn't cover my area even though it is one of the 30 largest markets in the US. Bottom line make sure you look at the coverage maps before deciding which way is best for you.
I always wanted to try it
My traffic just expired a couple weeks ago, I hadn't had a chance to renew. I wasn't really ready to drop another $60 for a year. But $60 for lifetime is another story.
So, I will be investing in the lifetime traffic. Anyone here know how well it works in the DC area?
Why yes I do!
I'm a courier in the DC area. For a while now I've been using the INRIX traffic data application for my Microsoft PDA phone and have found it to be the best of all of them. It is more accurate than Google maps on a PC(or my phone) and Live search traffic(also on my phone)!
The $60.00 year version wasn't nearly as good(although I don't know when they switched providers)as the new version. The old one had fictitious traffic and the new one seems to update faster.
Hopefully Garmin will at some time get the same gas price provider as MapQuest mobile. It is also best of breed. It updates gas prices 7 times a day using fleet charge accounts, unlike Microsoft's gas prices that can be several days old.
The only improvement I can see with the traffic would be if it was more clear witch direction the slow traffic was on the overview screen.
For the lifetime traffic, does one need any special receiver like the MSN and 7x5 series use or does it just come to the GPS like satellite reception?
For the lifetime traffic, does one need any special receiver like the MSN and 7x5 series use or does it just come to the GPS like satellite reception?
For the $60 Lifetime traffic you need one of the following receivers.
From Garmin site:
To receive traffic information on your compatible Garmin unit, you need a traffic receiver and antenna to send traffic information to your navigator. If your traffic-compatible unit did not come with a traffic receiver, you can purchase one separately. Currently Garmin offers the following FM traffic receivers/antennas.
If I recall correctly you just purchased a 750. If you are thinking about using the traffic feature you should return the 750 and purchase the 760. The 760 includes the traffic receiver, so you would only have to purchase the lifetime subscription for $60.
Checking it tomorrow. Becareful when using the Webupdater, it wants to load the troublesome 4.6 also. I hooked up just to get to the updating screens, and at the click to agree no turning back screen I disconnected and clicked ok a couple times until the additional updates came around and loaded the Bluetooth and Traffic update only.
I have been using the new 765T now for about a month and even though I am dead center in a coverage area, I can drive for 30 miles one way or 16 miles another and get no signal. But when it works, it works well. Anyone else notice big gaps in coverage. My 680 was a little better. The ads are no problem to me.
No traffic for me. Thanks for the replies.
how do you become a traffic courier?
how do you become a
I have no idea, but couriers rely on knowing the traffic situation. For me, and many others, it can make a ~$25.00-$100.00 a day difference.
This is the biggest disappointment for me, both with TMC and MSN. The actual reception coverage area in Chicagoland is nowhere near as large as it is listed on their online coverage maps. When I can get reception, I like the service.
Here in Arizona, only the Greater Phoenix and Tucson areas offer traffic coverage. Since I occasionally drive Down the Hill from Flagstaff, I added ClearChannel's lifetime traffic subscription and tested it out recently. As others have reported, the web site map showing coverage areas are wildly optimistic. But once in a reception area, they do a fine job.
not sure how much help or feedback this will be, as my 765T is my first GPS, so I am not sure what I expected the traffic feature to provide.
first thing I am not sure that I like, is how it automatically changes to the traffic map when it reports traffic ahead...I couldn't find any option to change that behavior, have you?
second, there have been quite a few times where I have been in what I would consider heavy traffic around downtown Pittsburgh, and it still shows a green traffic icon...eventually it will report the traffic and as I said, switch me to the traffic map automatically.
BTW, I am still a little unclear as to how I should make use of the combination of the traffic feature and the avoidances feature. If I enable the traffic avoidance option, in addition to the carpool lanes, ferries and unpaved roads avoidances, and I have the traffic receiver enabled, will the 765T take me off my route without giving me an option? In other words, if I am on a route that I am unfamiliar with, would I know if the nuvi was taking me off that route to avoid the traffic on it's own?
if I uncheck that traffic avoidance option, I assume that it doesn't alter the way the traffic feature behaves...it still switches me to that traffic map automatically, and it gives me an avoid button, though it seems to take me a couple of touches to get to that, and the ad that appears can sometimes be confusing, but maybe that is just that it is still new to me and I will get used to that.
I hope this was of some use/help to you.
I am learning as well.
I might as well go ahead and get the lifetime service. I just checked Garmin site and it looks like since I have the GMT-20 that came free with my Nuvi 660 I can use the service. I dont drive in Traffic that often but I have a feeling it could pay for it self pretty quickly driving to Columbus.
Does anyone know if this can ONLY be purchased directly from Garmin, or is it available from authorized resellers where discounts can be had?
As far as I know, it's only available at the Garmin site and there are no discounts.
i have the garmin nuvi 5000 and the msn traffic works great for me and it show me gas prices around me too soo yea it rock good job garmin
garmin nuvi 5000 & 200w
Is the first thing I do when I get into my car. Works great in the Denver area.
I have this model as well, and the complimentary subscription ran out about a month or so ago. I researched the subscription renewal just as the news was breaking about a lifetime subscription. I bought one after only three days into the program. I am thoroughly satisfied, I find the traffic feature at least as important as the navigation power of the 660, and I find it gets a signal faster than the complimentary service.
Will the FM traffic receiver work in rural areas? My MSN Direct does not.
but don't hold me to that...but I believe there is a coverage map on the Garmin site.
great news, I'm doing it now
Neither MSN or FM will work in rural areas. Like they mentioned above there are coverage areas at http://www.garmin.com/traffic .
Clear Channel and MSN Traffic have some coverage in Albuquerque. Navteq doesn't cover that area yet.
Down in Florida the FM option covers about 80% of the central peninsula. All of the I-4 corridor plus everything for 80-100 miles north and south of it. Looked at ClearChannel until I saw that little gem. Don't think I'll ever be traveling anywhere that doesn't have the FM coverage (at least not where I'll be having to get somewhere in a hurry).
With the MSN receiver, I switch between different units. So my subscription is good on any Garmin unit I use.
I wonder if it will be the same with this other lifetime subscription.
Yes, you can move the traffic receiver to different Garmins and it works. They sell both the receiver and subscriptions on buy.com, amazon and ebay for much less than garmins web page. You can buy a receiver for much less used on ebay from someone who had their free service expire and then buy a subscription card.
I am in Scottsdale, have a Nuvi 850, and want to purchase either the Clear Channel or NAVTEQ service.
Can you give me some specifics on the coverage area?
I've looked at the maps for both services and they are comparing apples to oranges - one is a large general circle and the other is a more detailed green patchy map.
I'm guessing that mountains could pose a problem...
I don't drive up to Flag often, I drive down to Tucson more often, but I am more concerned with the signal within the Valley itself.
Forgot to also ask,
What is the difference between the model numbers:
# 010-00544-13 at approx $80
# 010-00544-01 at approx $170
They are both CALLED the GTM 20.
1) can they both be used with either NAVTEQ or Clear Channel?
2) does the 2nd, more expensive one have the ad-free NAVTEQ? OR the Clear Channel? or WHAT??
I just can't find this info on the Garmin site.
Boy, my old Street Pilot c550 was a LOT easier to figure out!
GTM 20 #010-00544-13 @ $119.99 USD: Navteq Lifetime (ad-based) subscription
GTM 20 #010-00544-09 @ 214.27 USD: Clear Channel Lifetime (no ads) subscription
(Garmin Suggested Retail prices)
Note: I don't see a 010-00544-01 unit listed at the Garmin site but I do see it at Amazon and it appears to be the same as the 010-00544-09 (same MSRP). I'm thinking Garmin did some model renumbering...
Both units are the same hardware, the only difference is the subscription applied to the unit. You can purchase any subscription you'd like and apply it to either unit. Applying an additional subscription does NOT wipe out the previous one and they are all stored and useable once they are applied.
Available traffic subscriptions:
Be aware that the system is auto-sensing and will choose the "better" traffic provider (I believe it's first locked, first used) to use if multiple subscriptions are on the unit. On the nuvi line, you currently have no choice which one it will use. The new zumo 660 allows you to choose which to use so this setting *may* bleed to other units eventually as well.
so what does this mean to 765 owners who got free traffic?
If you're happy with the the ad-based free traffic, it means nothing.
However, if you don't like the ads and want more traffic coverage (depending on your area), you have the option of purchasing a Clear Channel Lifetime subscription for $60 or a Navteq Lifetime subscription for $49.99. You apply the subscription to your GTM xx and no more ads.
Note that Clear Channel has many more transmitting stations (at least here in SoCal) so coverage my be better using Clear Channel.
which one of those companies cover the free traffic for my unit?
Navteq Lifetime (ad based) is the traffic provider for the GPS units that come with free traffic (xxxxT units such as 765T, 265WT, 1260T, etc).
have it on 3 out of 4 Nuvi's I own!
Can you confirm that purchasing the $50 Navteq lifetime subscription and applying it to the GTM25 that came with a 265WT will result in NAVTEQ traffic service with no ads?
What happens to the original subscription with ads? Will the new subscription work in Canada?
I cannot personally confirm it since I don't want to spend the $50 to find out.
Look at it this way though...why would Garmin be selling an ad-based Navteq traffic subscription(sub)?
In addition, if your going to spend the $50 for Navteq sub, I would personally just spend the $10 more for the Clear Channel. In most areas, coverage is much better with more transmitting stations. Refer to the coverage maps to check your area.
Clear Channel Traffic coverage map:
Navteq Traffic coverage map:
As far as what happens to the sub on the GTM xx unit, it could be one of two things:
1. The new sub is added to the unit in addition to the old ad-based sub. The new sub then overrides the old.
2. The new sub overwrites/replaces the old ad-based sub.
I'm unsure of what exactly happens since I have no first-hand experience.
I do know for a fact that adding a Clear Channel sub to a Navteq ad-based sub leaves the Navteq sub intact and usable. Then system is auto-sensing and will use the best subscription for the area.
I believed in the past that the auto-sensing algorithm used with multi-sub units was most stations and/or stronger signal had priority. Just recently however, my system was using the Navteq sub (verified in the GTM diagnostics page) on my Clear Channel/Navteq ad-based unit so now I believe that the system may actually use the first seen, first locked method. Also note that I got zero ads while locked onto the Navteq station while I used the unit for about 2 hours.
All of this talk about Clear Channel and Navteq, where does MSN fit in the barrel.
I have a Nuvi 885t that came with the MSN feature and I need to know what the changes mean before I invest in the lifetime service
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