GPS goof ruins quiet street

 
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Doesn't surprise me

I have a similar problem, my unit sends me on a street that goes thru a gated community and continues thru to the next neighborhood, despite the fact that it is the shortest distance to my daughter's house the gate is closed 99.9% of the time.

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Reporting

I hope these errors are being reported to Navteq or whichever company produced the maps for those GPS units. It's all well and good to moan and complain but if you don't take the extra steps to report these errors to the appropriate entities, then you are doing everyone including yourself a disservice.

my question is ...

who's idea was it to put a gate across a perfectly good street?

I've seen the gate referenced in the article ... it's stupid! Let's spend tax dollars to build a road, and then not let people drive down it!?!

The trucks wouldn't be so noisy is they weren't parked and/or trying to turn around ....

Not sure updating the maps is the appropriate course of action here .... how about open the gate?

Agree in principle

I agree in principle but unless the powers that be in that community decide to open that road, it would be useful for the GPS community to be routed elsewhere and not be inconvenienced like they currently are. My guess is that it will be easier/faster to make a map update than legislate the opening of that road.

Post a sign - problem solved

Of course the easy solution to this is to simply post a sign at the beginning of the street which states "No Trucks" and/or "Not A Thru Street".

PT

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Not quite solved

It may solve part of the problem but it won't solve the fact that their GPS's are routing them there in the first place. And now they will have to figure out a new route once they see they were misdirected.

Open Source

DrewDT wrote:

I hope these errors are being reported to Navteq or whichever company produced the maps for those GPS units. It's all well and good to moan and complain but if you don't take the extra steps to report these errors to the appropriate entities, then you are doing everyone including yourself a disservice.

Wouldn't it be nice if the user could make the appropriate changes and have the maps updated instantly. Navteq is wrong in so many areas that it seems to me that even if they let individuals upload data it couldn't be any worse. There are a lot of people using this technology why hasn't it gone the way of other programing and become open source?

Large RV's

I'll bet if it was a large RV motorhome, it would be ok. Just a simple mistake.

Directions from people can be worse. Example: Go up the road to where Jake cut down that oak tree 15 years ago and turn right.

Ok, who is Jake?

Laugh if you will, those are actual directions I was given when I was trying to find a manufacturing plant.

We work with what we have.

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Here's One solution

Allow the people criss-crossing the globe in those vehicles equipped with all the high-tech electronic mapping gear, cameras and GPS equipment - you know, the ones with the NavTeq and TeleAtlas markings on the doors - to 'stop and smell the coffee' once in a while.

Mike wink

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Can Garmin/Navteq Handle This?

Right now, does anyone know whether Navteq/Garmin even has a way to deal with this? People within the gated community want their routing to go through the gate but nobody else's routing should include it. I don't see it as a mapping error at all.

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I believe that they do

Set it up like a one-way street. The only difference is making it unavailable to thru traffic but available to locals. In other words, if you plug in an address in that area/street, good. If not, go around.

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Poor little truckers- boohoo

DrewDT wrote:

It may solve part of the problem but it won't solve the fact that their GPS's are routing them there in the first place. And now they will have to figure out a new route once they see they were misdirected.

Ya, but at that point, who cares? It is the trucker's (and the trucking company's) problem to get themselves where they need to go. If they blindly follow the GPS, get to the street that then has a big "No Trucks" sign out, they can use their GPS to figure out a way around it.

The sign solves the problem of the trucks getting stuck on that street, waking people at all hours, pulling down wires, etc. which I believe was the point of the story, not how are those poor little truckers going to find their way around that street. wink

PT

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Garmin nüvi 200 (my first GPS), 780, & 3700 Series. And a Mac user.

Try it sometime

Boohoo?

When you're driving a 13'6" high, ~60' long rig, it's very dangerous not to know where you're going.

The problem is that sometimes it's unavoidable. Sometimes you get bad directions from the shipper, from the consignee, from your employer (and sometimes the employer will tell you you can't call the consignee for directions). Sometimes street signs aren't clear or even present.

And yes, sometimes GPS messes up. No trucker should rely on GPS 100%, of course, but sometimes there isn't a better option.

When a trucker is lost, the only thing he can really do is keep going and pray that there's a suitable place to turn around. Those places are rarer than you might imagine. Some companies will even fire you if they find out you've made a U-turn on a street without police oversight. Police oversight in such situations is a major hassle to all concerned, and a drain on taxpayers.

If there's one thing I've learned in the many years I've been in the workforce of varying professions, it's that just about every job you can imagine is almost certainly harder than it may appear from a distance.

Show a little respect. That Garmin Nuvi touted in your sig likely wouldn't have reached you in the first place if it weren't for the trucking industry.

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djs wrote:

who's idea was it to put a gate across a perfectly good street?

I've seen the gate referenced in the article ... it's stupid! Let's spend tax dollars to build a road, and then not let people drive down it!?!

The trucks wouldn't be so noisy is they weren't parked and/or trying to turn around ....

Not sure updating the maps is the appropriate course of action here .... how about open the gate?

Ummmmm....typically gated communities are privately built and owned, controlled by a HOA or condo board...a private community has EVERY right to gate it's roads as same are not, by any interpretation, public. They may be dedicated for police purposes but that still does not make them public.

Regards, Ted

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Do you all realize that you are responded to a thread that is 4 months old?

I had no idea there was a time limit on responses>>>

Motorcycle Mama wrote:

Do you all realize that you are responded to a thread that is 4 months old?

forgive me for missing the thread the first go 'round...I must have been busy working or some other foolishness.

Whoever revived it brought it to my attention and upon reading thought I'd correct a misconception...I shall try to be more vigilant in the future rolleyes

Ted

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So it's 4 months old, your point is?

TMK wrote:
djs wrote:
guttermouth wrote:

who's idea was it to put a gate across a perfectly good street?

I've seen the gate referenced in the article ... it's stupid! Let's spend tax dollars to build a road, and then not let people drive down it!?!

The trucks wouldn't be so noisy is they weren't parked and/or trying to turn around ....

Not sure updating the maps is the appropriate course of action here .... how about open the gate?

Ummmmm....typically gated communities are privately built and owned, controlled by a HOA or condo board...a private community has EVERY right to gate it's roads as same are not, by any interpretation, public. They may be dedicated for police purposes but that still does not make them public.

Regards, Ted

Guttermouth wrote:
DrewDT wrote:

It may solve part of the problem but it won't solve the fact that their GPS's are routing them there in the first place. And now they will have to figure out a new route once they see they were misdirected.

Ya, but at that point, who cares? (trunkcated)
The sign solves the problem of the trucks getting stuck on that street, waking people at all hours, pulling down wires, etc. which I believe was the point of the story, not how are those poor little truckers going to find their way around that street. wink

Ted,
Taking a public street and making it private. Hmmmm
makes me wonder if the home owners have to pay out of pocket for services, such as snow plowing? Street cleaning? street repair? This reminds me of Shaker Heights, Ohio. This comminity did the same except they used concrete barriers instead of a gate, however the were keeping minoritys out of their city instead of trucks. the barriers boarderd the city of Shaker Heights and Cleveland, and is still being fought in court.

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Private Roads

tmk wrote:

Taking a public street and making it private. Hmmmm
makes me wonder if the home owners have to pay out of pocket for services, such as snow plowing? Street cleaning? street repair?

Actually yes, they do have to pay out of pocket for snow plowing, road repairs, street cleaning etc. That's why they pay association dues or fees. Part of these fees go towards those services. The fact that public funds don't pay for these services is what makes them "private" roads. Many times, NONE of these streets are ever "public." They are usually put in by the builder of the development or neighborhood that they compose.

I can't speak for other states, but MD usually indicates private roads with blue signs with the street names. As Garmin indicates Interstates in red, primary and secondary roads other colors, you would think they could make private roads yet another....

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For the record, I did not write that>>>

fletch wrote:
tmk wrote:

Taking a public street and making it private. Hmmmm
makes me wonder if the home owners have to pay out of pocket for services, such as snow plowing? Street cleaning? street repair?

Actually yes, they do have to pay out of pocket for snow plowing, road repairs, street cleaning etc. That's why they pay association dues or fees. Part of these fees go towards those services. The fact that public funds don't pay for these services is what makes them "private" roads. Many times, NONE of these streets are ever "public." They are usually put in by the builder of the development or neighborhood that they compose.

I can't speak for other states, but MD usually indicates private roads with blue signs with the street names. As Garmin indicates Interstates in red, primary and secondary roads other colors, you would think they could make private roads yet another....

the author posted inside another quote by accident it appears smile

Regards, Ted

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WOW...

Thats crazy, i have found on occasion that i get routed to a street that i should not be on, case in point in queens, ny going down 69th ave, at one point there is a 2 block stretch that is one way, the rest is 2 way traffic, my nuvi didnt know that. Good thing i saw the DON NOT ENTER signs!!!!

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Brando perhaps?

loudogz74 wrote:

Good thing i saw the DON NOT ENTER signs!!!!

I guess they don't want any Mafia types on their street, eh?

wink

PT

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A pain

Using an out of the box GPS unit for truck driving is not very simple. I would love to see a trucker gps. Complete with low briges, prefered truck routing etc. Where the GPS routes you the way you would do it. One that would keep you off of streets you are not supposed to be on. I have had similar problems as this article. Not on purpose but a consignee gave me directions ended up in a residential area in Chicago and ended up having to have police escort me as I backed out a very busy street because there was a bridge at the end of it. A huge pain.