Help - I have the data, but I cannot make the CSV or GPX?

 

Warning: Extreme Noob here, please be kind.
Garmin c330

Background: I am looking to create a file for Golf Courses in the St. Louis Missouri Area.

This would include Public & Private Courses in Eastern Missouri and So. W. Illinois.

I have all the data.

I have Missouri Public Courses with coordinates in an Excel file. (I thought I'd wait on converting the private and Illinois info until I know what I'm doing.)

My Questions:
1. Do I want CSV or GPX? - I read the faq and still don't know.

2. How Do I convert from Excel to one of the above formats?

Special Issue with Golf Courses:

Very rarely would someone look for the nearest golf course. More likely, a friend makes a tee time and says "We've got a 9:30 Tee Time at XYZ course."

You are left trying to find XYZ course with no clue where it is.

So Question 3: Is it possible to have the courses appear alphabetically rather than by their proximate distance from your location?

Obviously, when I complete it and upload, I could up load one sorted alphabetically and one sorted by coordinates.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I can email to Excel file if that helps.

Thanks again,
Patrick

CSV format allows for POI's

CSV format allows for POI's to have the same name, so if that's a possibility, I'd go with that. It's also an easier format to manipulate with Excel and/or Notepad.

For Excel, just put Longitude in column 1, Latitude in column 2, Name in column 3, and Description in column 4. Column 3 and 4 can support line breaks, but there's plenty of info around here about that.

I even have a free format converter if that can help.

As to alphabetizing, no, the GPS will almost always show POI's in order of nearest to farthest, so it doesn't matter how the file is sorted.

David

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nüvi 200

If you have all the

If you have all the information including the coordinates you have done the hard part.
1.If not building any alerts into file csv will be good and the easiest to do.
2.On the excel file go to file at top and click on save as put in file name save as type csv(comma delimited)on the pull down menu.Then click on save.
3.POI'S will show by proximate.

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Thanks - but I still need help

When I "save as" CSV - I get a message say it's not compatable.

Can I e-mail someone the excel file and see if it works for you?

Thanks

Save

Sport Billy wrote:

When I "save as" CSV - I get a message say it's not compatable.

Can I e-mail someone the excel file and see if it works for you?

Thanks

Doesn't the message just say that certain formatting may be lost if you save it as a CSV? And doesn't it offer you the chance to go ahead anyway? If so, go ahead and save.

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POI LOADER

Yes, I've done that.
But when I try to use the Garmin POI uploader,it tells me the file "St Louis Golf Courses.csv" is invalid. sad

Can't send you email

Well I tried to send you my email address to let me look at it, but you don't have that option turned on in your profile.

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Nuvi 660 -- and not upgrading it or maps until Garmin fixes long-standing bugs/problems, and get maps to where they are much more current, AND corrected on a more timely basis when advised of mistakes.

.txt and .csv files

This is me talking:
I find it eminently easier to build a .txt file in Notepad for the POI rather than to use Excel. The format is:
longitude(comma)latitude(comma)(open quote)name(close quote)(comma)(open quote)address(new line)phone number(new line)any other comment(s)(close quote)
That's it. That's a legal POI entry. Here's one of my examples:

-81.292747,41.714719,"Mentor","9620 Diamond Centre Dr
Mentor OH 44060
440-639-8545"

The entry above when you see it in your GPSr is nicely formatted. "Mentor" is in large letters on the top line of the GPSr display with the rest of the lines in smaller print and with new lines after the "Dr" and after the "44060." Put as many entries as you want in the Notepad file, name it and save it in some folder where you can find it. It'll be saved as a .txt file. You've just done the hard part. Now comes the easy part.
To change the .txt file to a .csv file, just rename it. For instance, change Gander_Mtn_Mentor.txt to
Gander_Mtn_Mentor.csv. Viola! It's now an Excel file.
If I were you, I'd invest the $6 (I think) to get the POI Verifier program to run against the .csv file to make sure things are syntactically correct. Then use the free Garmin POI loader program to load the file into your GPSr and you're ready to go. It really isn't rocket science and is actually a lot of fun. The hardest part, at least for me, is satisfying myself that I have the correct latitude and longitude values. Everything after that is gravy.

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Phil said it all

Phil said it all. Whether you use notepad and put in the commas and quotes, or use a spreadsheet program like Excel to do it for you, you just have to make sure every entry is correct. I've never used POI Verifier but I hear good things about it.

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Sport Billy wrote:

When I "save as" CSV - I get a message say it's not compatable.

Can I e-mail someone the excel file and see if it works for you?

Thanks

If you haven't gotten it figured out, you can send it to me. But try a few things.

First make sure that your data format is correct inside the file.

http://www.poi-factory.com/garmin-csv-file-format

longitude,latitude,name,comment
-78.12345,40.98765,"ACME Shoe Store","123 Main Street Anytown, PA 10555 Phone: 555-829-8293"

Also, be sure that you don't have more than one worksheet in your file in Excel. Or use Notepad for simplicity when you are saving the file as a CSV.

And the answer to your question 3 in your OP is "No". The unit will sort any POI list in accordance with proximity to your current location. But you can always search for a POI by spelling the name.

I'm an Idiot!

mad redface crying

Thank you guys so much. You again show what a great community this is.

I guess I fell victim to a noobie mistake.

I had been doing it correctly all along. I had been using http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/geocoder/
After a few hours of work, I finally figured out that they give the results in latitude,longitude - not longitude,latitude.
I switched the columns and it worked first time.

I will do some testing for accuracy before I post it.

mad redface crying

Find Course by name

Sport Billy wrote:

Special Issue with Golf Courses:

Very rarely would someone look for the nearest golf course. More likely, a friend makes a tee time and says "We've got a 9:30 Tee Time at XYZ course."

You are left trying to find XYZ course with no clue where it is.

So Question 3: Is it possible to have the courses appear alphabetically rather than by their proximate distance from your location?

You can do what you want to - look up the golf course by name. When you pick the golf course POI list in Extras, touch SPELL and it will take you to the keyboard. Start spelling the golf course name and eventually a list will come up. Although it looks for the letter/number string match anywhere in the names, it should show the one you want (if it is spelled correctly) - at least that is the way it works with my nuvi 200W.

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testing for accuracy

Sport Billy wrote:

mad redface crying

Thank you guys so much. You again show what a great community this is.

I guess I fell victim to a noobie mistake.

I had been doing it correctly all along. I had been using http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/geocoder/
After a few hours of work, I finally figured out that they give the results in latitude,longitude - not longitude,latitude.
I switched the columns and it worked first time.

I will do some testing for accuracy before I post it.

mad redface crying

Glad you got it figured out.Did you use the excel to save as csv file?I have also used notepad to do the same thing but like the excel to csv.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

Excel or notepad

I used excel.
I like that I can edit individual columns.
Had I been using notepad when I discovered the lat/long problem I would have had a lot of cutting and pasting to do.

With excel, I just moved the columns.

Re: .Txt And .Csv Files

plunder wrote:

This is me talking:
I find it eminently easier to build a .txt file in Notepad for the POI rather than to use Excel. The format is:
longitude(comma)latitude(comma)(open quote)name(close quote)(comma)(open quote)address(new line)phone number(new line)any other comment(s)(close quote)
That's it. That's a legal POI entry. Here's one of my examples:

-81.292747,41.714719,"Mentor","9620 Diamond Centre Dr
Mentor OH 44060
440-639-8545"

The entry above when you see it in your GPSr is nicely formatted. "Mentor" is in large letters on the top line of the GPSr display with the rest of the lines in smaller print and with new lines after the "Dr" and after the "44060." Put as many entries as you want in the Notepad file, name it and save it in some folder where you can find it. It'll be saved as a .txt file. You've just done the hard part. Now comes the easy part.
To change the .txt file to a .csv file, just rename it. For instance, change Gander_Mtn_Mentor.txt to
Gander_Mtn_Mentor.csv. Viola! It's now an Excel file.
If I were you, I'd invest the $6 (I think) to get the POI Verifier program to run against the .csv file to make sure things are syntactically correct. Then use the free Garmin POI loader program to load the file into your GPSr and you're ready to go. It really isn't rocket science and is actually a lot of fun. The hardest part, at least for me, is satisfying myself that I have the correct latitude and longitude values. Everything after that is gravy.

Hi Phil,

I want to thank you for your post. You've shown me, in detail, how to create a .csv POI file. I've been trying to do this for quite a while, without any success. Well, I'm here to testify, thanks to your detailed instructions, I've just created my own POI.csv file and uploaded to my Nüvi 670...successfully!!!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

Best regards.

Tailspin

Nüvi 670
Mac User

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Sullivan's Law: Murphy was an optimist!

Notepad vs. Excel

Sport Billy wrote:

I used excel.
I like that I can edit individual columns.
Had I been using notepad when I discovered the lat/long problem I would have had a lot of cutting and pasting to do.

With excel, I just moved the columns.

Actually if you had made the file with Notepad and then discovered the lat/long column error, just open the csv file in Excel and switch the columns. Your csv file can be opened in either. For some editing I find Notepad easier - maybe just my lack of Excel skills.

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Steve W. - nuvi 50LM, 255W & 200W - Philadelphia, PA area

POI Verifier

POI Verifier also has the capability of switching the long-lat info in a csv POI file along with the ability to find data format errors such as missing quotes, commas etc.

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You can open CSV in Excel

Sport Billy wrote:

Had I been using notepad when I discovered the lat/long problem I would have had a lot of cutting and pasting to do. With excel, I just moved the columns.

You can open CSV files in Excel and it will put the entries into columns again for you.

CSV is just comma seperated text file

I use all kinds of text editor and Excel to do it, whichever on hands, never have any problem. But I still prefer Excel, it is easier to view or even sort on different columns. Be sure to save as csv file.

POI Verifier

I tried to download POI Verifier, but I kept getting an error message when I try to use the Paypal link.

Send an e-mail to Retired Technician

Sport Billy wrote:

I tried to download POI Verifier, but I kept getting an error message when I try to use the Paypal link.

Send an e-mail to Retired Technician who wrote POI Verifier -
RT is extremely helpful !

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MrKenFL- "Money can't buy you happiness .. But it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery." NUVI 260, Nuvi 1490LMT & Nuvi 2595LMT all with 2014.4 maps !

Re: .txt and .csv Files (a followup)...

Hi Phil,

Just a quick note about creating .csv files on the Mac. I was able to create .csv files (per your instructions) using either Microsoft Word or AppleWorks 6. So far I haven't been able to accomplish the task using OpenOffice (for the Mac), TexEdit or Tex-Edit Plus.

Once again, thank you for simplifying the .csv creation process.

Best regards.

Tailspin

Nüvi 670
Mac User

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Why?

tailspin wrote:

So far I haven't been able to accomplish the task using OpenOffice (for the Mac), TexEdit or Tex-Edit Plus.

What problem do you have with TextEdit and OpenOffice? I've used TextEdit successfully and I just checked to make sure OpenOffice allows you to take a spreadsheet and SaveAs a CSV, and it does. What happens?

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Re: Why...

bentbiker wrote:
tailspin wrote:

So far I haven't been able to accomplish the task using OpenOffice (for the Mac), TexEdit or Tex-Edit Plus.

What problem do you have with TextEdit and OpenOffice? I've used TextEdit successfully and I just checked to make sure OpenOffice allows you to take a spreadsheet and SaveAs a CSV, and it does. What happens?

Hi bentbiker,

I wasn't using the spreadsheet in NeoOffice, I was using the NeoOffice Word text editor. Creating it using the "spreadsheet" works just fine. Thanks for the tip...

I tried again with TexEdit and Tex-Edit Plus and was successful.

Regards.

Tailspin

Nüvi 670
Mac User

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One other thing I have learned ...

Nuvi's do NOT like "&" ampersands in the CSV/GPX files! Talk about trial and error. What I went through to find this little nugget before I found this web site. As a matter of fact, I probably found this web site while trying to find an answer for that problem!

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SpaceForThePoppa wrote:

Nuvi's do NOT like "&" ampersands in the CSV/GPX files!

It's not really a problem - they just need encoding as &amp; (that being the job of your POI Creation software wink)

Now getting anything other than the Nüvi 3xx series to display a "£" sign - that's a problem!

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Ahh, so that's how you do it!

Hornbyp wrote:
SpaceForThePoppa wrote:

Nuvi's do NOT like "&" ampersands in the CSV/GPX files!

It's not really a problem - they just need encoding as &amp; (that being the job of your POI Creation software wink)

Now getting anything other than the Nüvi 3xx series to display a "£" sign - that's a problem!

That's why I LOVE this site. At least one little nugget per day! Thank you!!

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Hornbyp wrote:

Now getting anything other than the Nüvi 3xx series to display a "£" sign - that's a problem!

It might be easier for you to just move. : 0

FYI

FYI, The name field (Third column) should be unique to identify the location. This is not required but is helpful when paging through the list. If you name them all "Golf Courses" then you need to select each one to see the desc for other information.

Use name like "White Pines", "Cog Hill Golf & CC",
or use the town as part of the name "Golf: Chicago",
"Golf: Glenview" to make page searching easier.

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