U.S. seeks system to track vehicles’ license plates

 

From today's WaPo:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/homela...

The Department of Homeland Security wants a private company to provide a national license-plate tracking system that would give the agency access to vast amounts of information from commercial and law enforcement tag readers, according to a government proposal that does not specify what privacy safeguards would be put in place.

License plates can be easily

License plates can be easily stolen.

Supprised that they would want to track them.

More likely they would want to track the physical car.
Create a built in location sender that cannot be ever be removed or disabled, now that's the hard part.

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Here's the way Bloomberg is reporting it:

There is more

Much of this data will be collected for the new "National Police Department" per Fox News. They also said the "security camera" that are installed in places like New York and Atlanta - they are for data collection and have nothing to do with security. Its big brother watching our every move and every mile we travel. They don't need to worry about traveling by air because those travels are well documented.

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Done

KenSny wrote:

More likely they would want to track the physical car.
Create a built in location sender that cannot be ever be removed or disabled, now that's the hard part.

Thats already done. If you disable the GPS the vehicle will not run.

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Another case of too much power.

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Winston Smith ....

Weeps, as usual.

America, we hardly knew ye.

Huh???

compman72 wrote:
KenSny wrote:

More likely they would want to track the physical car.
Create a built in location sender that cannot be ever be removed or disabled, now that's the hard part.

Thats already done. If you disable the GPS the vehicle will not run.

From which conspiracy theory website did this gem spring?

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Unless this is something

Unless this is something VERY new, I don't believe it either. I have personally seen a very recent totaled Jeep Cherokee that had been salvaged and the GPS stolen, or sold, before auction that had been stripped out and the vehicle ran and moved enough to get on a flatbed. Total rebuild, without the GPS and used as an off-road vehicle without any problems.

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they know where you live

KenSny wrote:

Unless this is something VERY new, I don't believe it either. I have personally seen a very recent totaled Jeep Cherokee that had been salvaged and the GPS stolen, or sold, before auction that had been stripped out and the vehicle ran and moved enough to get on a flatbed. Total rebuild, without the GPS and used as an off-road vehicle without any problems.

You're talking about the nav GPS, the other one is hidden, wrapped in tin foil and welded in place in a secret location between the floorboards. Oops, I've already said too much... mrgreen

The Government already did this but wanted to be legal

before the media say something.

Sigh...

Wrapped in foil? grin Kind of like the foil hats you wear to keep the "signals" from affecting your brain? idea Got it. Should have known. razz

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Much more sophisticated than licence plates ...

Box Car wrote:
compman72 wrote:
KenSny wrote:

More likely they would want to track the physical car.
Create a built in location sender that cannot be ever be removed or disabled, now that's the hard part.

Thats already done. If you disable the GPS the vehicle will not run.

From which conspiracy theory website did this gem spring?

Actually there was a story reported in the formal (not you-know-who) business news 2/19/2014 AM. Spent some time yesterday hunting for a link expressly for this thread. As is often the case links will disappear, the more provocative the proposal. No, I certainly will not repeat it here without external reference.

it is safe to remove tin foil hats now

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yep

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Not Needed

-Nomad- wrote:
KenSny wrote:

Unless this is something VERY new, I don't believe it either. I have personally seen a very recent totaled Jeep Cherokee that had been salvaged and the GPS stolen, or sold, before auction that had been stripped out and the vehicle ran and moved enough to get on a flatbed. Total rebuild, without the GPS and used as an off-road vehicle without any problems.

You're talking about the nav GPS, the other one is hidden, wrapped in tin foil and welded in place in a secret location between the floorboards. Oops, I've already said too much... mrgreen

They don't need to install GPS into vehicles, they've already got us with cell phone tracking.

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A Retraction?

For all those really worried

For all those really worried about this topic:

Wrap your cell phone in foil. Only unwrap it to make calls. Of course, you won't receive calls either, but you will be safe from the trackers.

Wrap your GPS in foil to fool those pesky gov't agencies. Because even if most people think it only receives signals, there must be a hidden transmit chip in there somewhere.

And for those that use the truly mobile GPS wristbands and such, foil is your only savior. Tip: When you get lost take the foil off.

And if you happen to have a pacemaker, well, not only do they know where you are, but what if they decide you are dangerous. They could just send an overload signal and poof, it's over for you.

Serious again: In this day and age, no matter what you do, Big Brother is watching you. Relax, you will live longer.

Gosh, this is fun stuff.
grin grin grin grin grin

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Go read "Cell"

KenSny wrote:

For all those really worried about this topic:
.... And if you happen to have a pacemaker, well, not only do they know where you are, but what if they decide you are dangerous. They could just send an overload signal and poof, it's over for you.

Gosh, this is fun stuff.
grin grin grin grin grin

Go read Robin Cook's new book, "Cell". He always writes great mysteries, but this one fits your comment above.

Yes, iDoc, ought to make the

Yes, iDoc, ought to make the iPhone users happy.

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fox news = false news

compman72 wrote:

Much of this data will be collected for the new "National Police Department" per Fox News. They also said the "security camera" that are installed in places like New York and Atlanta - they are for data collection and have nothing to do with security. Its big brother watching our every move and every mile we travel. They don't need to worry about traveling by air because those travels are well documented.

After all we have learned about fox news, you still believe what they say?

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Are We Being Tracked???

How many people have agreed to improve the "accuracy" of various smartphone apps by turning on "Location Services"?

Of course, they will only use the information to improve the services they offer us! Thank goodness we can trust Big Business razz

Obviously

groundhog wrote:
compman72 wrote:

Much of this data will be collected for the new "National Police Department" per Fox News. They also said the "security camera" that are installed in places like New York and Atlanta - they are for data collection and have nothing to do with security. Its big brother watching our every move and every mile we travel. They don't need to worry about traveling by air because those travels are well documented.

After all we have learned about fox news, you still believe what they say?

After all the firings we've seen throughout the TV news industry for dishonest/unprofessional reporting, you are concerned with Fox?

You must be listening too much to Jon Stewart ... now there a real news source! ROFL

Better use your own judgment (yes you are allowed) and forget the propaganda. Compare & validate! This is what journalism IS SUPPOSED to do for us but it seems that they prefer to advance there own agendas ... i.e. propaganda ......again.

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Obviously

Duplicate post.

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Give It Time

I have no doubt that at some point this program will be implemented and there will be nary a peep from the media (Ministry of Information). What I am waiting for will be something akin to an "Interstate Travel Permit" to be required. In essence, anyone who wants to travel between states will be required to have a Federal document granting permission to travel and listing the states where the permit is valid and the time period it is valid along with essentially a travel plan. Police would be authorized to stop out-of-state vehicles at random to check for valid travel permits. That will go a long way towards fighting terrorism. (Please note: sarcasm for the humor impaired)

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